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i planned on going

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live yesterday but i wanted to come up

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more stuff for you guys and

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real quick i

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have not been on here for like a week

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because i was

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not feeling great

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how's it going lord ludacris uh had some

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heart issues i still have some heart

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issues but i am alive but it's kind of

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zapping my energy right now um i've been

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tweeting a lot and working on the blog

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i was not up to youtube

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anyway

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i will go for as long as i possibly can

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and we can guarantee and if there's any

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audio problems let me know too loud or

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whatever um

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i'll go as long as i can and we probably

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will be interrupted by

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the dog

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authorization act

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deals with defense budget and policies

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we have the ufo office that senator

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gillibrand who you see pictured

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she put up the language after

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congressman gallego had put it up in the

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house that language was whittled down a

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little bit to where

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thanks thanks ludicrous

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it's okay it's an irregular heartbeat

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it's all right right now it's it's still

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still still beating so

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if you hear no noise then that means i'm

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in trouble anyway i've had this before

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it just hasn't lasted this long

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so it passed the house passed the senate

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the one main thing that was taken out of

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the language was

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the fact that they're not working with

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civilian organizations like the galileo

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project and ave loeb and some other

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groups hopefully that will change in the

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thanks edward edward

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um so let me play uh this interview

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that was done kelly meyer

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unfortunately it's not the whole

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interview but this is which this is what

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she uh was able to get from senator

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whether it's their radar systems whether

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systems or key sensors and uh

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unfortunately over struck it over i

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think i clipped it on their aircraft

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whether it's their radar systems whether

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it's through video systems whether it's

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heat sensors and uh unfortunately over

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many years the military sometimes does

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not respond well when an airman comes

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forward and says i've seen something i

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can't identify and we want that era to

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stop if an airman sees something that

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they cannot identify we need to know

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what that is we need to know if it's

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aircraft from a foreign adversary such

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as russia or china and if it truly is

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unidentified it truly is unknown so you

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need to know that so as a chairman of

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personnel i need service members to be

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able to come board document something

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seen that doesn't make sense it doesn't

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so that's it it's clipped there um

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kelly meyer if the whole thing would be

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put up i don't know if she saw it but i

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did not get a response uh as far as i

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public comments on camera that senator

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gillibrand has given

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we hear more from her but right now

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president biden to sign it and i'm

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douglas dean johnson who's done amazing

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he said that he hopes it'll be signed in

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a done deal before

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i have a lot of tweets and i kind of

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want to make this my way of getting

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people who don't go on twitter this is

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my way to show you what you're missing

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although i can't cover everything i'm

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that happen to people who have a close

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encounter and close encounter that

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definition will be it'll be a little

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more defined tonight when you i'm going

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to read some of my interview i did with

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kid green i'm not going to read all of

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dr kit green

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and i'm not going on camera tonight i am

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not prepared to be on camera since i

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wasn't feeling well and i'm still not

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of years ago it was probably the middle

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the part in phenomena by annie jacobson

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where she talks about kit green and gary

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nolan's work

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and actually i can i can pull that up

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kit green and a psychic or a medical

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intuitive that he uses and they were

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a session on an experiencer

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who was part of the study that dr green

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part of the asap study i'm not sure if

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but it was an experiencer he was working

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with and he wanted to get information

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this transcript somebody sent me the

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read about him so this is from andy

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yeah it's a great book um

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when she wrote in area 51 about

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roswell being deformed humans or humans

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that were part of nazi experiments which

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me reach out to kit green and she says

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green accepted his patients carefully

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they are all high functioning

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individuals

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many prodigious savants most of whom

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carry a high security clearance he says

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they are members of special forces

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military bases policemen

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injuries take place in a military biovac

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which is an overnight oh which is an

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overnight mission at a secure location

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for the purpose of guarding

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exploration common injuries are from

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jacobson says green takes on patients

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who are already who already have a thick

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physician case file and those doctors

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have been unable to determine what

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my patients were physically injured by

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something they have signs on their body

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markings illness he says

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they agree to give green access to their

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medical history and permission for him

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to speak with their other doctors

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none have mental illness

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they and their physicians have exhausted

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many avenues and find themselves at the

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end of their rope says green these

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patients are by majority not prone to

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conspiracy or ptsd this kind of thinking

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diagnosis from very little and often

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so guy says hi guy vyvac is a temporary

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camp without tense there you go

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and now i am educated if i'm sure i'm

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saying it wrong too and then edward says

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a biovac is an open field used by the

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military to pitch their tents okay

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so back i have so much stuff guys i have

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which i don't think many people have

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from jim peniston's book which is really

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interesting and and i i copied some of

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it so i'll get to that

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so anyway green says uh jacobson says

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using the technology available available

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kit green orders brain scans specialized

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present he has more than 100 active

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patients and by the way these are

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patients that he's working with with dr

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majority of his patients had been

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programs he says that is advanced

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there is there is something anomaly

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anomalous that we're dealing with so it

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seems like it's a mix for him but as far

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his patients are involved in non-leaked

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cloaking devices drones

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and that's where he thinks they were

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injured 25 this is a big thing and i've

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hopped on this before this is why asap

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the program that studied health related

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effects from 2008 to 2010

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with bigelow in charge bass bigelow

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aerospace advance advanced aerospace

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space systems

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25 percent of the patients that they

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worked with green and nolan

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die within five to seven years of

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green's diagnosis

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and i have no idea of how many

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in green says i have no idea of how any

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programs i knew about years ago it's

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weird he goes unless i unless i copied

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this wrong it says i have no idea of how

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any programs i knew about years ago can

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do these things which makes you think

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he's not leaning towards towards black

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technology which as you'll see though he

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does

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that's even recent we have some

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i'm looking at comments too if you guys

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have something that jumps out put it in

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to advance his hypothesis based on the

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demographics and high functioning of his

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patients

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dr green teamed up with the nolan lab at

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stanford university who we'll hear about

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later

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run by gary nolan one of the world's

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leading research scientists specializing

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in genetics immunology and

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bioinformatics

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nolan trained under the nobel

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prize-winning biologist david ball david

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baltimore has published over 200 i think

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it's not 300 now at least maybe 400

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we'll see when we get to that research

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papers and holds 20 biotechnology

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patents

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age 55 and i think this was

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2018 this book

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i think age 55 he has been honored as

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one of the top 20 inventors at stanford

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university

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green's identity as a cia officer

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remained secret until 2007 when he

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appeared in an episode of pbs the pbs

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series secrets of the dead the episode

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was called the umbrella assassin which i

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talked to him about i'm not sure if it's

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in my interview

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um

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he wants me to interview him on stuff

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that's not ufo stuff because most of the

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work he does is not ufo or remote

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viewing and psychic stuff um the episode

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he was in was called the umbrella

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assassin

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it was a bulgarian dissonant

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georgie markov who was killed at a bus

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stop in england in 78 so they think that

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the person who killed him might have had

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like a tip

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of poison on the end of an umbrella and

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they brought in dr kit green like tell

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us what killed a guy so that's what that

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episode is about which i linked to

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and

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forensic medical cases over the next

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five years green was awarded the

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national intelligence medal

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after greene officially left the cia in

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1985 he worked for general motors

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research labs and was eventually

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promoted to chief technology officer for

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asia pacific he has remained an active

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military and intelligence science

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advisor for the cia and the department

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of defense

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serving on more than 20 defense science

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and advisories boards

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so that's that um

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yeah lor i don't i don't know if i think

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he was saying possible possibility they

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were

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i don't know if he said drones in that

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clip

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said

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all different kinds of black technology

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let me see

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said

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injured from that uh non-lethal weapons

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programs holograms cloaking devices

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drones

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so

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that's what he says and

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he has said publicly and i've heard too

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that

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there are people who agree with him

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there are people who disagree with him

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on this stuff

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and you'll see there are specifics that

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gary nolan goes into related to black

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programs that's folks who read the vice

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know so anyway

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so that's that and then

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timing wise i'm trying to see

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give me one second

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so

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i don't want to go to my interview yet

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i will go to the gym

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hopefully i can find this

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this clip

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so it's a jim penderson interview

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and it's from pennison's book

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i think this is it

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so jim pennison wrote a book and i have

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to find it because i took my time

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i'll pull it up

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right now i took my time finding this

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here we go i found it

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so it's a recent book but penniston

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talks about a meeting with green that a

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lot for a lot of people this is going to

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be brand new information i know it was

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brand new to me i mean so many books to

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read out there

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so that and i need to put links to all

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the stuff i will afterwards or tomorrow

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so this is from the rental shin enigma

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which happened in 1980 the sighting most

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people know about the renders from

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forest incident i think it was december

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26th and 28th and i think it might have

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been a third day i was just watching

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unsolved mysteries

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which did a great job back then sounds

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amazing how young everybody is they

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interviewed peniston and and charles

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halt

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um so this is from peniston's book

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he was not in the unsolved mysteries

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episode

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so green wanted to meet peniston

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uh pennison agreed but he said

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the terms were that he

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his friend and lawyer pat frisconia

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would be there when green came to visit

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um

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and i'm just going to quote from

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peniston's book

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i also told him that the meeting would

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have to be in rockford illinois i

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thought that would not materialize but

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within 24 hours green agreed to a

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two-day meeting in rockford illinois in

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august 2013.

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now remember office app was 2008-2010

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it ended december of 2010 and i believe

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green was working with ossep i mean i

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don't have that officially but it's i'm

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pretty confident green was working with

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assap and doing this kind of work with

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injuries and

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well yeah he did he did his his dirt on

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injuries uh human related effects that

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was one of the dirt that came out later

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so

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three years after osap ended

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green would fly

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frisconia from mississippi mississippi

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to chicago and then kick green reserve

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room so all three of them at the

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rockford

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conference room so he gets there

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and

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henson says conversation was somewhat

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open with green he told me that in the

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late 60s and early 70s he had been an

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analyst for the cia through the stanford

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research institute and emphasized that

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he was actually a doctor and that was

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where his career was focused

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he then added that he first heard of the

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rental stream incident was also aware of

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our personal plight john burroughs and

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me

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during the citizens hearing that was

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conducted at the national press club in

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washington dc some months earlier

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and that he had decided to help us with

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his services as a doctor and also use

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his associations to get us va disability

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and treatment

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you'll see uh peniston is pretty sassy

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with his comments here

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his approach was he said that he wanted

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to help me peniston obtain veterans

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administration va help and assistance

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this was interesting since both

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burroughs and i were already receiving

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stellar care from the va with the help

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of our letters from both general

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williams and colonel halt

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kit green then shifted the conversation

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to a more personal level by saying

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he was there solely to help me but also

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in the same breath

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came an indication that there was a more

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grandiose reason

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to conclude with what he had already

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told me i asked

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so the purpose of you being here is that

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you are here to help me

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green stuttered and said

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yes

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adding that it was it also would help

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his own research with this phenomenon

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especially where others who have had

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similar experiences are concerned

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i then asked who the others were and who

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were being researched and also asked if

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he was working for any of the three

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subcontractors who routinely do usep

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unacknowledged special access program

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work

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i then named the three major government

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contractors the largest being science

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applications international corporation

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saic along with bigelow aerospace being

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hesitantly

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green said that he had never heard of

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the first two

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but not in the very least not in the

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least very convincingly convincingly

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however green then went on to say that

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he is working with a group who is ex who

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are who are exploring cases that needed

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to be looked at i then asked are you

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doing subcontracting work for the

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government then

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green said yes and added that he was

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currently working for bigelow aerospace

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with a group of eight other scientists

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and medical professionals so

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asap ended in 2010. green is telling

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peniston

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in 2013 that he was currently working

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for bigelow aerospace so what program is

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that if that's true

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what program is is green working with

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for bigelow and this is one of the

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things i didn't know

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when i interviewed green that i want to

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follow up on and i want to ask him about

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hopefully i'll get the chance

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i don't know if he'll want to talk about

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this

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these are his claims

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you know green could always say i never

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so

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i am looking at comments

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peniston continues and says so now his

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reason on being there to me

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to see me was beginning to take on a

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much different purpose than he had given

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earlier in the year

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and this had become even clearer since

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we had begun talking

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green then said that he was researching

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a project about propulsion with these

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cases

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i stopped green mid-sentence oh come on

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i said it's not about propulsion

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green responded with

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i guess propulsion is the wrong word i

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was only using that word so you could

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understand what i'm talking about

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and pedestal's like just humor me use

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the real words if i don't understand

570
00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:36,880
i'll ask

571
00:22:41,190 --> 00:22:39,360
so green continued and said okay

572
00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:41,200
so the real meaning from my point of

573
00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:43,600
view is that this is not only about the

574
00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:46,080
rendulsham incident itself but also

575
00:22:50,310 --> 00:22:48,240
aspects of the phenomenon

576
00:22:52,149 --> 00:22:50,320
we have seen in other witnesses and

577
00:22:54,070 --> 00:22:52,159
rather than propulsion we want to

578
00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:54,080
understand exactly how the technology

579
00:22:59,990 --> 00:22:57,120
enables dimensional travel

580
00:23:02,470 --> 00:23:00,000
so in a sense it is propulsion jim and

581
00:23:04,710 --> 00:23:02,480
that's really that's cool i just

582
00:23:07,029 --> 00:23:04,720
um i assume

583
00:23:09,270 --> 00:23:07,039
i'm not sure where a doctor a medical

584
00:23:11,430 --> 00:23:09,280
doctor

585
00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:11,440
who you know his main goal is trying to

586
00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:12,720
figure out how people die it was one of

587
00:23:15,750 --> 00:23:14,080
the main things he did he did i'm not

588
00:23:18,310 --> 00:23:15,760
sure how he works into dimensional

589
00:23:20,390 --> 00:23:18,320
travel i don't know how

590
00:23:22,710 --> 00:23:20,400
i'm not sure how he plays into that

591
00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:22,720
something i need to ask him if he'll

592
00:23:26,789 --> 00:23:24,559
even agree that this is what he said to

593
00:23:28,470 --> 00:23:26,799
peniston

594
00:23:30,390 --> 00:23:28,480
so then green said

595
00:23:31,430 --> 00:23:30,400
that burroughs and especially me

596
00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:31,440
peniston

597
00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:34,559
had been the closest closest of any of

598
00:23:39,750 --> 00:23:36,960
his subjects to one of these crafts

599
00:23:42,230 --> 00:23:39,760
related to the phenomenon

600
00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:42,240
how many have you researched peniston

601
00:23:45,909 --> 00:23:43,440
asked

602
00:23:46,870 --> 00:23:45,919
a group of around 50 people green said

603
00:23:49,190 --> 00:23:46,880
adding

604
00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:49,200
we are looking for for what we are

605
00:23:53,430 --> 00:23:51,440
looking for is the signature it leaves

606
00:23:55,909 --> 00:23:53,440
within our dna

607
00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:55,919
and in parts of the our brain

608
00:23:59,110 --> 00:23:57,279
so i assume he's talking about the

609
00:24:00,789 --> 00:23:59,120
caudate potamen but

610
00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:00,799
as you'll see later on

611
00:24:05,110 --> 00:24:03,520
dr gary nolan said the people who have

612
00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:05,120
the part of their brain that's different

613
00:24:08,710 --> 00:24:06,720
than normal people

614
00:24:11,350 --> 00:24:08,720
they have mris from some of these people

615
00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:11,360
and it had that effect and it had that

616
00:24:17,269 --> 00:24:13,679
their brain was like that before

617
00:24:19,430 --> 00:24:17,279
so in sin it's so we're thinking that

618
00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:19,440
from that it's not caused by an

619
00:24:23,830 --> 00:24:22,159
encounter with a ufo it seems like

620
00:24:25,110 --> 00:24:23,840
maybe those people who have that part of

621
00:24:27,750 --> 00:24:25,120
their brain

622
00:24:29,350 --> 00:24:27,760
um like that which we'll get into

623
00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:29,360
maybe they're the ones who are able to

624
00:24:33,830 --> 00:24:32,080
see these ufos more i don't know or

625
00:24:36,390 --> 00:24:33,840
whoever's inside the ufos is attracted

626
00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:36,400
to them don't know but it doesn't seem

627
00:24:39,909 --> 00:24:38,320
like it's happening because of their

628
00:24:42,549 --> 00:24:39,919
encounters

629
00:24:45,110 --> 00:24:42,559
peninsula includes uh continues

630
00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:45,120
my thoughts were right so you could then

631
00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:46,720
use the signature

632
00:24:51,269 --> 00:24:49,520
i'll start again a group of 50 people

633
00:24:53,590 --> 00:24:51,279
green said what we are looking for is

634
00:24:56,070 --> 00:24:53,600
this signature it leaves within our dna

635
00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:56,080
in and in parts of our brain

636
00:25:00,789 --> 00:24:58,240
my thoughts were right so that you could

637
00:25:03,190 --> 00:25:00,799
then use the signature to follow it back

638
00:25:06,230 --> 00:25:03,200
to the source of the phenomenon i didn't

639
00:25:08,630 --> 00:25:06,240
tell green what i was thinking

640
00:25:12,070 --> 00:25:08,640
and then penicin says how many of your

641
00:25:16,230 --> 00:25:15,110
still alive and green said

642
00:25:20,549 --> 00:25:16,240
two

643
00:25:22,710 --> 00:25:20,559
don't know how many how many patients

644
00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:22,720
was he working with at that point

645
00:25:25,430 --> 00:25:24,480
that's the stuff i need to ask green

646
00:25:28,710 --> 00:25:25,440
about

647
00:25:30,390 --> 00:25:28,720
yes two euan burroughs green replied

648
00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:30,400
maybe this was the early days he did not

649
00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:32,320
have a lot of patience i don't know

650
00:25:35,190 --> 00:25:33,360
adding

651
00:25:37,590 --> 00:25:35,200
burroughs is very receptive to getting

652
00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:37,600
his research done he will readily submit

653
00:25:41,990 --> 00:25:39,760
to the tests and a trip to stanford

654
00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:42,000
recent research institute in san

655
00:25:46,710 --> 00:25:44,400
francisco

656
00:25:48,230 --> 00:25:46,720
pettison's like so

657
00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:48,240
why do you need

658
00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:50,559
what do you need from me then

659
00:25:55,669 --> 00:25:53,360
green hesitated for a moment and said

660
00:25:57,590 --> 00:25:55,679
we would also like you to submit an

661
00:25:59,510 --> 00:25:57,600
mri blood test that could be done

662
00:26:01,669 --> 00:25:59,520
through your local va after you sign a

663
00:26:03,590 --> 00:26:01,679
release of all your medical information

664
00:26:06,230 --> 00:26:03,600
allowing me to order these tests and

665
00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:06,240
then i will review the results

666
00:26:10,149 --> 00:26:08,320
green then added that burroughs had

667
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:10,159
already agreed to go to sri in san

668
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:13,679
francisco and submit to the dna research

669
00:26:18,070 --> 00:26:16,080
mri and cataloging

670
00:26:21,190 --> 00:26:18,080
in the database there and that he could

671
00:26:24,390 --> 00:26:21,200
fly us in together okay i said so if i

672
00:26:27,190 --> 00:26:24,400
do all of the things you ask me and then

673
00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:27,200
what's in it for me dr green

674
00:26:32,470 --> 00:26:29,360
this is kind of this is kind of weird he

675
00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:32,480
obviously does not like green he says

676
00:26:36,630 --> 00:26:34,480
with no emotion

677
00:26:38,789 --> 00:26:36,640
green responded with what do you mean

678
00:26:40,710 --> 00:26:38,799
you mean financially

679
00:26:42,549 --> 00:26:40,720
i found that response interesting and i

680
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:42,559
gathered that the subject of money had

681
00:26:47,510 --> 00:26:44,400
also been brought up when he and

682
00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:47,520
burroughs had first met i said no while

683
00:26:51,669 --> 00:26:49,679
laughing at a suggestion and i asked i

684
00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:51,679
mean what purpose or advantage do i have

685
00:26:57,110 --> 00:26:54,720
with this testing and going to sri

686
00:26:58,710 --> 00:26:57,120
well green said you'll become part of

687
00:27:01,350 --> 00:26:58,720
the database and your purpose will be

688
00:27:03,350 --> 00:27:01,360
helping mankind with this green then

689
00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:03,360
added of course your name would not be

690
00:27:07,350 --> 00:27:05,200
involved and you would be assigned a

691
00:27:11,110 --> 00:27:07,360
number only and of course you will get

692
00:27:13,029 --> 00:27:11,120
your va disability no questions asked

693
00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:13,039
now knowing yet another reason for him

694
00:27:16,870 --> 00:27:14,799
being here i told green that i

695
00:27:19,110 --> 00:27:16,880
appreciated what he had told me and i

696
00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:19,120
would try to help him with his requests

697
00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:22,480
or at least consider it

698
00:27:28,710 --> 00:27:24,559
i then asked him another question

699
00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:28,720
what's in it for you then dr green

700
00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:30,240
green's face

701
00:27:33,669 --> 00:27:32,640
which had been emotionless since we sat

702
00:27:36,630 --> 00:27:33,679
down

703
00:27:39,830 --> 00:27:36,640
now changed to what seemed to me to be a

704
00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:39,840
response of fake anger at my consistent

705
00:27:44,389 --> 00:27:42,880
questioning of his motives as if he was

706
00:27:45,510 --> 00:27:44,399
acting

707
00:27:48,230 --> 00:27:45,520
and

708
00:27:50,310 --> 00:27:48,240
i will stop here for a second

709
00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:50,320
i know isn't this kind of this is really

710
00:27:53,669 --> 00:27:52,080
stuff that when i read this i'm like how

711
00:27:55,029 --> 00:27:53,679
did i not know about this and this book

712
00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:55,039
is massive

713
00:28:01,110 --> 00:27:57,840
this book is like 700 pages i think

714
00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:03,430
hopefully kick green doesn't hear this

715
00:28:06,710 --> 00:28:04,480
but

716
00:28:09,430 --> 00:28:06,720
when i was when i was interviewing him i

717
00:28:11,029 --> 00:28:09,440
had the same thing happen where i'm like

718
00:28:13,750 --> 00:28:11,039
he started getting angry when we were

719
00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:13,760
talking about i think it was kolaris and

720
00:28:17,669 --> 00:28:15,200
he was saying he was thinking it was

721
00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:17,679
human he got really angry and i felt it

722
00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:20,000
it didn't it just did not feel genuine

723
00:28:22,230 --> 00:28:20,880
to me

724
00:28:23,909 --> 00:28:22,240
um

725
00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:23,919
so i don't know if that's true or not

726
00:28:27,830 --> 00:28:25,840
but that's what peniston was saying here

727
00:28:29,990 --> 00:28:27,840
he felt like he was he was acting by

728
00:28:36,389 --> 00:28:30,000
saying you know

729
00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:38,070
i didn't say what he said yet

730
00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:39,279
um so

731
00:28:42,950 --> 00:28:41,200
he says green shattered a line at me

732
00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:42,960
that sounded like it had come straight

733
00:28:46,950 --> 00:28:44,640
out out of the original star trek

734
00:28:51,269 --> 00:28:46,960
television series green in a raised

735
00:28:53,510 --> 00:28:51,279
voice said damn it jim i am a doctor i

736
00:28:55,590 --> 00:28:53,520
only want to help people and that the

737
00:28:56,830 --> 00:28:55,600
line in star trek is damn it jim i'm a

738
00:28:59,029 --> 00:28:56,840
doctor not a

739
00:29:01,269 --> 00:28:59,039
magician i just sat there for a moment

740
00:29:04,070 --> 00:29:01,279
in silence thinking yet again he has

741
00:29:05,990 --> 00:29:04,080
changed his purpose for being here now

742
00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:06,000
he was he's just a doctor doing what he

743
00:29:10,549 --> 00:29:06,720
can

744
00:29:13,269 --> 00:29:10,559
help it i had to smile after that star

745
00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:13,279
trek related remark the smile or grin on

746
00:29:17,110 --> 00:29:16,080
my face sent green to a new level of

747
00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:17,120
angry

748
00:29:21,029 --> 00:29:19,600
he jumped up almost shouting that if i

749
00:29:23,590 --> 00:29:21,039
was going to be like this then he would

750
00:29:25,590 --> 00:29:23,600
just leave and fly back home

751
00:29:27,590 --> 00:29:25,600
i immediately responded in a calm voice

752
00:29:29,590 --> 00:29:27,600
that it was go it was okay with me

753
00:29:31,669 --> 00:29:29,600
adding that i had only driven 30 minutes

754
00:29:33,190 --> 00:29:31,679
to get here and then i was more than

755
00:29:35,029 --> 00:29:33,200
willing to terminate the meeting if that

756
00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:35,039
was his wish

757
00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:37,120
green immediately calmed down it was

758
00:29:40,870 --> 00:29:39,120
like a door shutting and opening again

759
00:29:42,950 --> 00:29:40,880
green then said that he had scheduled a

760
00:29:44,789 --> 00:29:42,960
conference room for our discussions for

761
00:29:46,389 --> 00:29:44,799
the next day and we would meet at 9 00

762
00:29:48,310 --> 00:29:46,399
am

763
00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:48,320
now he is okay and wants to stay i

764
00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:50,399
thought at the very least i found dr

765
00:29:57,430 --> 00:29:52,720
green's mood swings odd i responded to

766
00:30:02,870 --> 00:30:00,710
and then he goes on to talk about how

767
00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:02,880
his friend his friend and lawyer pat

768
00:30:07,590 --> 00:30:05,200
frisconia had

769
00:30:09,510 --> 00:30:07,600
related how the borough's meeting went

770
00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:09,520
with green and if you listen to john

771
00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:11,760
burroughs i i had some i have some

772
00:30:15,269 --> 00:30:14,080
borough stuff on my blog um when he was

773
00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:15,279
on with linda martin how they had to

774
00:30:18,870 --> 00:30:17,760
show a phenomenon radio i mean he he

775
00:30:21,029 --> 00:30:18,880
talked about

776
00:30:23,110 --> 00:30:21,039
his encounter with dr rain and it's

777
00:30:24,789 --> 00:30:23,120
but he was skeptical too about giving up

778
00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:24,799
his blood he really did not want to give

779
00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:26,320
up his dna

780
00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:30,470
so then pat said right after burroughs

781
00:30:35,029 --> 00:30:32,799
and he had met dr green in a motel in

782
00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:35,039
flagstaff arizona this is

783
00:30:39,590 --> 00:30:37,279
before the meeting with peniston

784
00:30:43,029 --> 00:30:39,600
after only 15 minutes green said he had

785
00:30:47,669 --> 00:30:43,039
another doctor coming to see burroughs

786
00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:49,590
and when he got back

787
00:30:54,149 --> 00:30:51,120
burroughs was standing with his shirt

788
00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:54,159
off being examined by green so

789
00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:55,600
barbara's had problems with his heart so

790
00:31:01,350 --> 00:30:57,840
you can't blame him um

791
00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:01,360
panistan was a lot more skeptical

792
00:31:06,630 --> 00:31:04,000
so burroughs had consented to a physical

793
00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:06,640
examination

794
00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:08,799
and pat was told barrels also agreed for

795
00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:10,640
green to have the fellow doctor who

796
00:31:14,549 --> 00:31:12,960
green had said was currently working he

797
00:31:16,549 --> 00:31:14,559
was cur working with

798
00:31:18,230 --> 00:31:16,559
and who was on his team fly from

799
00:31:19,430 --> 00:31:18,240
california to las vegas the next day and

800
00:31:21,509 --> 00:31:19,440
then drive

801
00:31:23,350 --> 00:31:21,519
to flagstaff to collect borough's blood

802
00:31:28,470 --> 00:31:23,360
i do remember boro was talking about

803
00:31:32,230 --> 00:31:30,389
yeah burroughs was eager to accommodate

804
00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:32,240
green with a blood sample free dna

805
00:31:35,430 --> 00:31:33,760
system testing

806
00:31:37,350 --> 00:31:35,440
anyway so

807
00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:37,360
i'm not going to read this this is a

808
00:31:40,870 --> 00:31:39,600
really long sec segment

809
00:31:42,389 --> 00:31:40,880
um

810
00:31:44,149 --> 00:31:42,399
i will skip a little bit just read a

811
00:31:47,750 --> 00:31:44,159
little more of this

812
00:31:49,509 --> 00:31:47,760
next morning i enjoyed breakfast

813
00:31:52,389 --> 00:31:49,519
i met kid green and pat for scoring

814
00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:52,399
outside the conference room

815
00:31:58,710 --> 00:31:57,110
green complained that the noise from a

816
00:32:00,389 --> 00:31:58,720
halt across the hallway was too loud the

817
00:32:01,990 --> 00:32:00,399
air conditioner was too loud and

818
00:32:04,230 --> 00:32:02,000
pennison was like what the hell it's not

819
00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:04,240
that loud what is your problem so green

820
00:32:08,870 --> 00:32:06,000
called the hotel and they moved into a

821
00:32:10,389 --> 00:32:08,880
gigantic room that could fit 25 people

822
00:32:12,149 --> 00:32:10,399
so it was just the three of them sitting

823
00:32:13,269 --> 00:32:12,159
at a table

824
00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:13,279
and

825
00:32:16,470 --> 00:32:14,240
pettiston said he was a little

826
00:32:20,710 --> 00:32:16,480
uncomfortable with

827
00:32:26,310 --> 00:32:22,950
and i'm trying to see if there's any

828
00:32:31,669 --> 00:32:29,430
to make sure

829
00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:31,679
so i felt uh i was already suspicious of

830
00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:33,120
green and suspected he was going to

831
00:32:37,350 --> 00:32:35,279
record the conversation to make sure he

832
00:32:38,950 --> 00:32:37,360
didn't i reminded green that it was

833
00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:38,960
against the law in the state of illinois

834
00:32:42,789 --> 00:32:40,799
to record a person person without

835
00:32:43,909 --> 00:32:42,799
permission especially if the person was

836
00:32:46,149 --> 00:32:43,919
unaware

837
00:32:48,630 --> 00:32:46,159
green then responded i'm not recording

838
00:32:51,190 --> 00:32:48,640
anything and i said fine i would not

839
00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:51,200
have given you permission anyway

840
00:32:54,950 --> 00:32:52,960
as it turns out during the whole two-day

841
00:32:57,350 --> 00:32:54,960
meeting not one

842
00:33:00,950 --> 00:32:57,360
written note was taken i find that quite

843
00:33:04,389 --> 00:33:02,870
so i'm trying to see what else so that's

844
00:33:06,710 --> 00:33:04,399
that i'm not going to read i'm not going

845
00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:06,720
to read everything from there

846
00:33:12,630 --> 00:33:10,559
let me get out of that and i will i will

847
00:33:15,430 --> 00:33:12,640
read some of

848
00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:15,440
my interview with kit green which i read

849
00:33:19,190 --> 00:33:18,000
on i quoted on twitter the other day the

850
00:33:22,310 --> 00:33:19,200
other day

851
00:33:27,029 --> 00:33:23,830
but i'll read a little more i'm trying

852
00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:29,430
i'll find it now

853
00:33:32,549 --> 00:33:31,440
so i just need to find

854
00:33:33,669 --> 00:33:32,559
my

855
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:33,679
interview

856
00:33:37,190 --> 00:33:34,480
with

857
00:33:41,430 --> 00:33:37,200
dr kit green here we go

858
00:33:46,230 --> 00:33:42,549
um

859
00:33:48,149 --> 00:33:46,240
when i wrote him the reason he said

860
00:33:50,630 --> 00:33:48,159
he was willing to talk to me is because

861
00:33:53,590 --> 00:33:50,640
i had not made up my mind on what ufos

862
00:33:56,070 --> 00:33:53,600
represent and he really liked that

863
00:33:59,110 --> 00:33:56,080
supposedly

864
00:34:02,870 --> 00:34:00,470
he does have a sense of humor and i'm

865
00:34:04,950 --> 00:34:02,880
trying to find the spot

866
00:34:07,269 --> 00:34:04,960
which i was going to talk about and i

867
00:34:10,790 --> 00:34:07,279
have lost it

868
00:34:12,149 --> 00:34:10,800
but he was up he was worried that um

869
00:34:14,389 --> 00:34:12,159
he was worried that when he called me

870
00:34:16,710 --> 00:34:14,399
his opinion

871
00:34:18,069 --> 00:34:16,720
that i would be upset

872
00:34:20,230 --> 00:34:18,079
so he goes now do you want me to tell

873
00:34:21,909 --> 00:34:20,240
you what i've decided basically about

874
00:34:24,069 --> 00:34:21,919
his opinion on the phenomena this is

875
00:34:26,389 --> 00:34:24,079
going to be very disappointing to you i

876
00:34:28,550 --> 00:34:26,399
think and i said it won't be

877
00:34:30,310 --> 00:34:28,560
with all the odd injuries so we're

878
00:34:31,589 --> 00:34:30,320
talking about injuries here

879
00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:31,599
and then we'll get to the gary noland

880
00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:33,280
vice interview

881
00:34:37,190 --> 00:34:35,280
i also transcribed the other interview

882
00:34:37,990 --> 00:34:37,200
he did with jesse i forget jesse's last

883
00:34:40,389 --> 00:34:38,000
name

884
00:34:41,909 --> 00:34:40,399
i finished that today

885
00:34:43,829 --> 00:34:41,919
green says with all the odd injuries and

886
00:34:47,109 --> 00:34:43,839
everything else i don't have to believe

887
00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:47,119
in aliens or abductions to explain

888
00:34:53,589 --> 00:34:52,069
thanks thanks a lot chris i appreciate

889
00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:53,599
that

890
00:35:01,030 --> 00:34:59,040
somebody who is a patient or a friend or

891
00:35:04,470 --> 00:35:01,040
family member

892
00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:06,390
oh let me see well hold on i gotta

893
00:35:09,750 --> 00:35:08,160
interrupt

894
00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:09,760
i may disagree with you on davis wilson

895
00:35:13,270 --> 00:35:11,119
notes but i do love your passion and

896
00:35:14,470 --> 00:35:13,280
attention to detail thank you

897
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:14,480
trust me

898
00:35:18,870 --> 00:35:16,960
what i am so the reason i have good

899
00:35:21,109 --> 00:35:18,880
reason for being confidence confident

900
00:35:23,270 --> 00:35:21,119
about davis wilson being a legitimate

901
00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:23,280
document not that it actually happened i

902
00:35:26,310 --> 00:35:25,440
don't know that that's just an opinion

903
00:35:29,750 --> 00:35:26,320
that

904
00:35:32,470 --> 00:35:29,760
wilson did meet with those folks

905
00:35:34,310 --> 00:35:32,480
and the people who he met with told him

906
00:35:36,150 --> 00:35:34,320
what their program was about

907
00:35:39,030 --> 00:35:36,160
that i don't know i mean

908
00:35:41,670 --> 00:35:39,040
my opinion is yes but i'm very strong

909
00:35:43,829 --> 00:35:41,680
that davis did meet with wilson

910
00:35:45,030 --> 00:35:43,839
but like i said in the past if i gave

911
00:35:49,430 --> 00:35:45,040
out my

912
00:35:51,270 --> 00:35:49,440
sources and why i believe that i mean i

913
00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:51,280
publicly available

914
00:35:55,750 --> 00:35:52,960
information i came to that conclusion

915
00:35:57,750 --> 00:35:55,760
but then like in the past four months

916
00:35:59,670 --> 00:35:57,760
spoke to more people and i was like oh

917
00:36:00,950 --> 00:35:59,680
obvious all right this is a done deal

918
00:36:05,349 --> 00:36:00,960
anyway

919
00:36:05,359 --> 00:36:09,829
all right so

920
00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:11,589
so i don't have to believe in aliens or

921
00:36:15,750 --> 00:36:13,680
abductions to explain the medical data

922
00:36:17,349 --> 00:36:15,760
and that's that's my conclusions that

923
00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:17,359
doesn't mean that if

924
00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:19,520
somebody who is a patient or a friend or

925
00:36:23,670 --> 00:36:21,200
a family member or a journalist or

926
00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:23,680
anybody says do i believe that there is

927
00:36:27,510 --> 00:36:25,440
possibly aliens or do i believe there is

928
00:36:29,109 --> 00:36:27,520
possibly extraterrestrials or

929
00:36:32,069 --> 00:36:29,119
ultra-terrestrials or something like

930
00:36:34,230 --> 00:36:32,079
that i'd say i'm really really

931
00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:34,240
open-minded to that but i will tell you

932
00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:36,160
is i've never had a patient that i've

933
00:36:40,630 --> 00:36:38,480
had to use those extraterrestrials or

934
00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:40,640
aliens or abduction experiences to

935
00:36:44,550 --> 00:36:42,960
explain away to explain any of my

936
00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:44,560
medical data

937
00:36:49,349 --> 00:36:46,800
basically whatever injuries they have he

938
00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:49,359
believes can be you know caused by human

939
00:36:53,270 --> 00:36:51,920
technology my follow-up would be and if

940
00:36:55,510 --> 00:36:53,280
i was

941
00:36:57,190 --> 00:36:55,520
actually paying attention at this point

942
00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:57,200
i would have said

943
00:36:59,910 --> 00:36:58,000
so

944
00:37:03,030 --> 00:36:59,920
just because you think humans can cause

945
00:37:04,870 --> 00:37:03,040
this that doesn't mean i mean

946
00:37:06,950 --> 00:37:04,880
some advanced species could be using

947
00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:06,960
similar technology but i understand what

948
00:37:10,630 --> 00:37:09,040
he's saying you know you would think if

949
00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:10,640
they were that advanced their technology

950
00:37:13,829 --> 00:37:11,920
would be that much different but who

951
00:37:15,510 --> 00:37:13,839
knows i mean there's no way to know

952
00:37:18,069 --> 00:37:15,520
absolutely no way to know

953
00:37:20,790 --> 00:37:18,079
happy saturday michael

954
00:37:27,589 --> 00:37:20,800
i'm in like i always am saturday night

955
00:37:31,270 --> 00:37:29,349
i don't need magic i don't have to use

956
00:37:32,870 --> 00:37:31,280
alien hypothesis to explain them i can

957
00:37:34,550 --> 00:37:32,880
do better with advanced medical

958
00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:34,560
technology

959
00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:36,640
which leads to a whole set of different

960
00:37:41,190 --> 00:37:38,800
questions so that i have this is not

961
00:37:42,790 --> 00:37:41,200
proofread i have to fix typos

962
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:42,800
so this leads to a whole set of

963
00:37:46,630 --> 00:37:44,560
different questions he said to me he

964
00:37:49,430 --> 00:37:46,640
goes well then who do you who do you

965
00:37:52,390 --> 00:37:49,440
think is doing it and i have to say

966
00:37:54,630 --> 00:37:52,400
i can't talk about that

967
00:37:56,470 --> 00:37:54,640
first i do not know and secondly some of

968
00:37:59,109 --> 00:37:56,480
what i suspect is due to classified

969
00:38:00,870 --> 00:37:59,119
reasons and i won't discuss it for that

970
00:38:02,550 --> 00:38:00,880
but in particular

971
00:38:05,109 --> 00:38:02,560
i have no evidence

972
00:38:07,510 --> 00:38:05,119
that the body is elevated up in any way

973
00:38:09,430 --> 00:38:07,520
much less a spacecraft actually i

974
00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:09,440
actually don't believe that but i can't

975
00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:11,599
say i can prove it is not true

976
00:38:15,589 --> 00:38:13,760
and i said even john mack in his later

977
00:38:17,829 --> 00:38:15,599
his later book

978
00:38:19,670 --> 00:38:17,839
um passport to the cosmos was

979
00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:19,680
considering that it was non-physical at

980
00:38:23,589 --> 00:38:21,839
least some of it uh he goes yeah i think

981
00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:23,599
that opens up much terribly more

982
00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:26,320
dangerous explanation

983
00:38:30,870 --> 00:38:28,400
explanations it basically leads down a

984
00:38:32,950 --> 00:38:30,880
road that is that is waiting for what i

985
00:38:35,190 --> 00:38:32,960
think you want in this conversation

986
00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:35,200
which is okay if it's possible that a

987
00:38:41,430 --> 00:38:37,920
human organization particularly a

988
00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:41,440
non-government one is doing this

989
00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:42,960
and this is i've done this in kit

990
00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:44,640
impersonation before

991
00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:45,760
he goes

992
00:38:50,470 --> 00:38:47,760
if it's a non-government

993
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:50,480
organization organization doing this the

994
00:38:55,270 --> 00:38:53,280
question is why

995
00:38:57,190 --> 00:38:55,280
how

996
00:38:59,030 --> 00:38:57,200
where

997
00:39:00,870 --> 00:38:59,040
how much money

998
00:39:02,950 --> 00:39:00,880
for what purpose

999
00:39:05,589 --> 00:39:02,960
you know and that's i spent a great deal

1000
00:39:07,109 --> 00:39:05,599
of time with my colleagues talking about

1001
00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:07,119
because we think that's enough of a

1002
00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:09,119
possibility we are investigating the

1003
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:11,520
dickens out of who it might be and i can

1004
00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:13,440
tell you none of us think it's the

1005
00:39:16,950 --> 00:39:15,280
united states government so i should

1006
00:39:18,069 --> 00:39:16,960
have jumped in

1007
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:18,079
and said

1008
00:39:21,349 --> 00:39:20,160
do you think it's americans or

1009
00:39:23,109 --> 00:39:21,359
international you know a

1010
00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:23,119
non-governmental group

1011
00:39:28,790 --> 00:39:26,240
made up of americans i mean you know i

1012
00:39:30,790 --> 00:39:28,800
i have so many follow-ups that if i get

1013
00:39:33,829 --> 00:39:30,800
to talk to him again on the record that

1014
00:39:37,510 --> 00:39:35,990
and i'll go a little more uh i want to

1015
00:39:39,270 --> 00:39:37,520
get to the vice article there's some

1016
00:39:40,470 --> 00:39:39,280
people who use don't use twitter who

1017
00:39:42,069 --> 00:39:40,480
have no idea there are people on twitter

1018
00:39:43,270 --> 00:39:42,079
who had no idea the vice article that

1019
00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:43,280
was even out

1020
00:39:46,790 --> 00:39:44,560
the only thing i could think of that

1021
00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:46,800
goes against and i'll check out comments

1022
00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:48,480
in a second the only thing i could think

1023
00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:50,640
of that goes against it being black

1024
00:39:56,150 --> 00:39:52,640
technology this is me is something that

1025
00:39:57,829 --> 00:39:56,160
dr gary nolan said in the phenomena book

1026
00:39:59,510 --> 00:39:57,839
talking about the experiencers he says

1027
00:40:01,670 --> 00:39:59,520
some people seem to repeatedly attract

1028
00:40:03,510 --> 00:40:01,680
the phenomena or the experiences they

1029
00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:03,520
act like an antenna or a lighthouse in

1030
00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:05,760
the dark if that's true wouldn't that

1031
00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:07,920
suggest it was something that

1032
00:40:12,069 --> 00:40:10,240
knew that these people were special i

1033
00:40:13,589 --> 00:40:12,079
wouldn't think black technology would be

1034
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:13,599
attracted to certain people it seems

1035
00:40:17,910 --> 00:40:16,000
like your hypothesis is that it's just a

1036
00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:17,920
random encounter with this this

1037
00:40:22,710 --> 00:40:20,640
technology or are you not saying that no

1038
00:40:24,230 --> 00:40:22,720
i'm not in fact i'm glad you raised this

1039
00:40:26,230 --> 00:40:24,240
early in the conversation i totally

1040
00:40:28,069 --> 00:40:26,240
agree agree with gary but i can tell you

1041
00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:28,079
the details of why gary says he says

1042
00:40:32,309 --> 00:40:30,160
what he did what you quoted he said is

1043
00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:32,319
that the hundred thousand foot level

1044
00:40:37,030 --> 00:40:33,839
what i believe which is totally in

1045
00:40:38,550 --> 00:40:37,040
agreement is at the 10 000 foot level

1046
00:40:40,309 --> 00:40:38,560
this starts talking about things that

1047
00:40:42,230 --> 00:40:40,319
are really really interesting people who

1048
00:40:43,670 --> 00:40:42,240
are experiencers have come to be

1049
00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:43,680
experiences because they are different

1050
00:40:47,910 --> 00:40:46,400
from the average population

1051
00:40:50,069 --> 00:40:47,920
and they are related

1052
00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:50,079
to being beacons for reasons that

1053
00:40:53,670 --> 00:40:52,160
include genetic genetics but it's

1054
00:40:55,430 --> 00:40:53,680
probably not because somebody's doing

1055
00:40:57,829 --> 00:40:55,440
something like using them as a beacon to

1056
00:41:00,150 --> 00:40:57,839
remotely read their dna it's more likely

1057
00:41:02,950 --> 00:41:00,160
because of a selection hypothesis which

1058
00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:02,960
i believe and i think gary does too

1059
00:41:06,309 --> 00:41:04,640
for five or ten years i was working on

1060
00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:06,319
the general hypothesis that the people

1061
00:41:10,630 --> 00:41:08,560
that were in my patient population that

1062
00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:10,640
were being injured were being injured

1063
00:41:14,069 --> 00:41:12,160
because they were being targeting

1064
00:41:16,470 --> 00:41:14,079
targeted in some way because they were

1065
00:41:18,470 --> 00:41:16,480
excellent remote viewers or because they

1066
00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:18,480
had some other characteristic and i was

1067
00:41:22,630 --> 00:41:20,880
working on the hypothesis that somehow

1068
00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:22,640
whatever the organizations were that

1069
00:41:28,069 --> 00:41:25,200
were causing the harm and the injuries

1070
00:41:29,750 --> 00:41:28,079
dr green went silent for a few seconds

1071
00:41:31,510 --> 00:41:29,760
by the way when i go quiet for a minute

1072
00:41:33,349 --> 00:41:31,520
it's because i'm about to cough and hit

1073
00:41:35,829 --> 00:41:33,359
the mute button so i don't blow your

1074
00:41:37,990 --> 00:41:35,839
eardrums out i said well i thought you

1075
00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:38,000
might have been abducted but all right

1076
00:41:42,790 --> 00:41:40,160
and he said when they come to get me it

1077
00:41:45,829 --> 00:41:42,800
takes them a lot more time i really

1078
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:45,839
fight those suckers off

1079
00:41:50,309 --> 00:41:48,400
anyway so he's able to joke which i can

1080
00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:50,319
tell right away

1081
00:41:54,550 --> 00:41:52,079
and so they don't really get me meaning

1082
00:41:56,069 --> 00:41:54,560
the aliens abducting him

1083
00:41:57,589 --> 00:41:56,079
uh i had a lot of data and i have a

1084
00:42:00,230 --> 00:41:57,599
colleague in london he's an attorney

1085
00:42:06,470 --> 00:42:00,240
he's an expert at this stuff kind of

1086
00:42:10,790 --> 00:42:07,829
on the places i've been there is

1087
00:42:15,510 --> 00:42:12,870
i'm sorry if i don't put it up

1088
00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:15,520
memory feels

1089
00:42:18,069 --> 00:42:17,200
okay

1090
00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:18,079
so

1091
00:42:25,109 --> 00:42:19,359
like i said if you have any questions

1092
00:42:28,309 --> 00:42:26,630
so

1093
00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:28,319
his friend the attorney in london is an

1094
00:42:32,470 --> 00:42:30,800
expert in this stuff

1095
00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:32,480
thanks lord ludicrous

1096
00:42:35,670 --> 00:42:34,240
i haven't read this in a while

1097
00:42:37,589 --> 00:42:35,680
i need to go over it again because i

1098
00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:37,599
know some of it's slightly inaccurate

1099
00:42:40,309 --> 00:42:38,880
typo wise

1100
00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:40,319
so his friend in london the attorney is

1101
00:42:44,630 --> 00:42:42,160
an expert in this stuff kind of like a

1102
00:42:46,390 --> 00:42:44,640
guy named jacques valet is an expert in

1103
00:42:48,550 --> 00:42:46,400
it and so i periodically i would love to

1104
00:42:50,309 --> 00:42:48,560
know who this attorney in london is so i

1105
00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:50,319
periodically go there and i brief him on

1106
00:42:54,390 --> 00:42:52,240
everything i do he's also got a wife

1107
00:42:57,270 --> 00:42:54,400
incidentally who was an internist an md

1108
00:42:58,950 --> 00:42:57,280
internist anyway i made a presentation i

1109
00:43:00,309 --> 00:42:58,960
came back six months later made another

1110
00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:00,319
presentation and i told him what i

1111
00:43:05,030 --> 00:43:02,720
thought it took me eight hours to brief

1112
00:43:07,030 --> 00:43:05,040
him at that point he says you're making

1113
00:43:09,349 --> 00:43:07,040
a mistake the only mistake you are

1114
00:43:11,829 --> 00:43:09,359
making is that these people aren't

1115
00:43:14,230 --> 00:43:11,839
being beacons it's because they share

1116
00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:14,240
comorbid more than one disease or

1117
00:43:17,750 --> 00:43:16,240
condition is present in the same person

1118
00:43:20,630 --> 00:43:17,760
at the same time

1119
00:43:22,550 --> 00:43:20,640
they share more core morbid executive

1120
00:43:24,950 --> 00:43:22,560
functioning competencies

1121
00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:24,960
all the people that are your patients

1122
00:43:28,870 --> 00:43:26,640
you have such a narrow collection of

1123
00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:28,880
patients just such a tiny tiny slice of

1124
00:43:32,950 --> 00:43:30,640
people who think they've been abducted

1125
00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:32,960
and been injured such a tiny percentage

1126
00:43:37,030 --> 00:43:34,560
of people who are involved in ufos that

1127
00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:37,040
see them in the sky you're excluding 90

1128
00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:38,960
percent of the ufo abductee and injured

1129
00:43:43,510 --> 00:43:41,680
population it's that the people who are

1130
00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:43,520
injured all come from such a selected

1131
00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:45,200
population that they're all special

1132
00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:47,839
forces they're all highly skilled

1133
00:43:52,710 --> 00:43:50,640
they're all high iqs they're all special

1134
00:43:55,829 --> 00:43:52,720
high performers in intelligence the

1135
00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:55,839
military aerospace industry astronauts

1136
00:43:58,069 --> 00:43:56,720
i mean

1137
00:43:59,589 --> 00:43:58,079
they're people who are the best of the

1138
00:44:01,190 --> 00:43:59,599
best and they happen just happen to be

1139
00:44:03,670 --> 00:44:01,200
in the places that are really really

1140
00:44:05,510 --> 00:44:03,680
super dangerous duh

1141
00:44:06,950 --> 00:44:05,520
and so they get injured this is his

1142
00:44:08,309 --> 00:44:06,960
friend speaking

1143
00:44:10,150 --> 00:44:08,319
and they're getting injured by something

1144
00:44:11,829 --> 00:44:10,160
that nobody's ever considered as a

1145
00:44:15,030 --> 00:44:11,839
threat before because the injury is so

1146
00:44:20,069 --> 00:44:15,040
damn weird and the ideology of ideology

1147
00:44:23,349 --> 00:44:21,349
i went back

1148
00:44:25,589 --> 00:44:23,359
and i talked to gary about this and a

1149
00:44:27,030 --> 00:44:25,599
few other people in my confederation and

1150
00:44:28,309 --> 00:44:27,040
we kind of looked at each other across

1151
00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:28,319
the table and said

1152
00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:29,920
holy [\h__\h]

1153
00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:31,920
these are people who are in fact three

1154
00:44:36,790 --> 00:44:34,480
sigma four sigma five sigma

1155
00:44:38,630 --> 00:44:36,800
out in the bell-shaped curve of human

1156
00:44:40,710 --> 00:44:38,640
competency

1157
00:44:42,630 --> 00:44:40,720
so they're really really really

1158
00:44:44,550 --> 00:44:42,640
intelligent people

1159
00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:44,560
and they happen to be where they are

1160
00:44:48,470 --> 00:44:46,319
because the selection systems for those

1161
00:44:50,309 --> 00:44:48,480
jobs have over selected them and i

1162
00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:50,319
believe that's true i don't think it's

1163
00:44:53,910 --> 00:44:52,079
anything to do with them being targeted

1164
00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:53,920
although i will share with you that

1165
00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:55,920
many of my confederation members don't

1166
00:45:00,390 --> 00:44:57,839
quite agree with that and that's okay i

1167
00:45:01,990 --> 00:45:00,400
mean good gosh i only came kind of came

1168
00:45:05,030 --> 00:45:02,000
to this conclusion and let me say one

1169
00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:05,040
thing he made me make sure i say this

1170
00:45:10,390 --> 00:45:08,240
was done december of 2019 his opinions

1171
00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:10,400
may have changed since this interview

1172
00:45:14,390 --> 00:45:12,160
was conducted so i just want to say that

1173
00:45:16,550 --> 00:45:14,400
for the record he made sure that when i

1174
00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:16,560
published it which i have not that i

1175
00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:23,109
i mean i've been looking at people who

1176
00:45:34,069 --> 00:45:24,960
are really injured but not necessarily

1177
00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:35,910
and then i get into um

1178
00:45:39,430 --> 00:45:37,920
uri geller

1179
00:45:40,870 --> 00:45:39,440
but this really quick i'm not going to

1180
00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:40,880
read the rest of this i'm going to save

1181
00:45:43,109 --> 00:45:41,920
this but

1182
00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:43,119
i said did you have any interest in this

1183
00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:44,480
when you were younger before you got

1184
00:45:47,829 --> 00:45:46,400
into the cia were you exposed to eric

1185
00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:47,839
geller

1186
00:45:51,510 --> 00:45:49,680
before you got into the caa and were

1187
00:45:52,870 --> 00:45:51,520
exposed to erie geller anything at all

1188
00:45:53,829 --> 00:45:52,880
when you were younger

1189
00:45:55,349 --> 00:45:53,839
nope

1190
00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:55,359
no experiences

1191
00:45:59,190 --> 00:45:57,200
nope i don't have any experiences i try

1192
00:46:00,950 --> 00:45:59,200
to convince myself that there have been

1193
00:46:02,870 --> 00:46:00,960
a few but i would really say they were

1194
00:46:05,589 --> 00:46:02,880
pretty boring even if i could remember

1195
00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:05,599
them and i don't spend much time on it

1196
00:46:09,990 --> 00:46:08,160
there was one and only one actually

1197
00:46:11,990 --> 00:46:10,000
there were two things two things i

1198
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:12,000
should not be this cavalier one thing

1199
00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:14,640
when i was a young child 12 years old 15

1200
00:46:18,069 --> 00:46:15,599
years old

1201
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:18,079
my mom and dad my dad was this physician

1202
00:46:21,190 --> 00:46:19,760
my mom mother was an artist we're all

1203
00:46:22,150 --> 00:46:21,200
from wisconsin

1204
00:46:23,750 --> 00:46:22,160
uh

1205
00:46:25,430 --> 00:46:23,760
told me a weird story about a classic

1206
00:46:27,670 --> 00:46:25,440
case where they were up at a lake up in

1207
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:27,680
northern wisconsin i mean i mean they

1208
00:46:30,790 --> 00:46:29,280
saw a ufo

1209
00:46:32,309 --> 00:46:30,800
they didn't even know what to call it it

1210
00:46:35,190 --> 00:46:32,319
was like a whole bunch of people on the

1211
00:46:38,309 --> 00:46:35,200
lake saw it coming out of the water

1212
00:46:39,990 --> 00:46:38,319
floating up around the water silently

1213
00:46:42,069 --> 00:46:40,000
what they said was a funny thing it

1214
00:46:45,750 --> 00:46:42,079
looked like a pie plate with a dome on

1215
00:46:47,190 --> 00:46:45,760
it blah blah blah blah blah it's like

1216
00:46:48,390 --> 00:46:47,200
yeah for me it wasn't blah blah blah

1217
00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:48,400
blah blah

1218
00:46:54,069 --> 00:46:49,920
he's like yeah this you know the same

1219
00:46:55,750 --> 00:46:54,079
old sighting you hear of a classic disc

1220
00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:55,760
uh flying saucer

1221
00:46:59,270 --> 00:46:57,440
and they described it and they didn't

1222
00:47:01,670 --> 00:46:59,280
know what it was they were describing it

1223
00:47:04,750 --> 00:47:01,680
was like 1952 and they described what

1224
00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:04,760
they had seen before world war ii about

1225
00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:07,760
1930 when they were up

1226
00:47:13,030 --> 00:47:10,720
at college and i i added just to clarify

1227
00:47:16,230 --> 00:47:13,040
in 1952 green's parents told him about a

1228
00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:16,240
ufo sighting they had around 1930

1229
00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:19,440
1930 a trans medium craft in northern

1230
00:47:26,950 --> 00:47:25,030
the other thing was my mom when i was in

1231
00:47:28,710 --> 00:47:26,960
college

1232
00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:28,720
sent me a book as a present when i was

1233
00:47:33,430 --> 00:47:31,040
in college it was jb ryan's book about

1234
00:47:34,870 --> 00:47:33,440
psychic research with the zener cards

1235
00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:34,880
those are the um

1236
00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:37,040
telepathy cards where it's five

1237
00:47:40,630 --> 00:47:38,880
symbols and you have to guess and i

1238
00:47:42,470 --> 00:47:40,640
think you have 20 you have a 20 chance

1239
00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:42,480
of getting it right and there are people

1240
00:47:47,030 --> 00:47:44,720
that have done i think over the long

1241
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:47,040
haul it's it's above chance i don't know

1242
00:47:51,430 --> 00:47:49,760
what the number is in the all overall

1243
00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:51,440
zener card experiments but it's above

1244
00:47:54,630 --> 00:47:53,440
chance you go so that's it those are

1245
00:47:56,230 --> 00:47:54,640
experiences

1246
00:47:57,510 --> 00:47:56,240
real quick would you ever work with any

1247
00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:57,520
remote viewers you consider to be

1248
00:48:02,230 --> 00:47:59,280
superstars

1249
00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:02,240
the answer to your question is yes

1250
00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:05,040
double yes and triple yes i've known

1251
00:48:09,270 --> 00:48:07,440
three now i've examined dozens and

1252
00:48:11,670 --> 00:48:09,280
dozens in the early early early program

1253
00:48:12,549 --> 00:48:11,680
the cia i mean you know the army program

1254
00:48:15,910 --> 00:48:12,559
that

1255
00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:15,920
went from 1985 through 1994 93 or

1256
00:48:19,510 --> 00:48:16,960
whatever

1257
00:48:20,950 --> 00:48:19,520
i've seen data of about 100 really good

1258
00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:20,960
remote viewers

1259
00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:22,960
and of that hundred or so three were

1260
00:48:25,829 --> 00:48:24,240
superstars

1261
00:48:29,349 --> 00:48:25,839
i'm going to say this again so it comes

1262
00:48:31,829 --> 00:48:29,359
out in capital letters and italicized

1263
00:48:35,430 --> 00:48:31,839
in the domain of what the data was that

1264
00:48:36,950 --> 00:48:35,440
these remote viewers were looking at

1265
00:48:39,670 --> 00:48:36,960
i have known

1266
00:48:41,430 --> 00:48:39,680
three that were essentially 95 actually

1267
00:48:44,309 --> 00:48:41,440
if i tell the truth really a hundred

1268
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:44,319
percent accurate all the time every day

1269
00:48:50,069 --> 00:48:47,520
whenever one was uri geller one was

1270
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:50,079
price and one was a person whose name

1271
00:48:54,069 --> 00:48:52,079
did not want to be used and i should add

1272
00:48:56,870 --> 00:48:54,079
a fourth person who is almost as good as

1273
00:48:58,710 --> 00:48:56,880
they are ingo swan now i repeat what i

1274
00:49:01,510 --> 00:48:58,720
just said in italics i can't speak to

1275
00:49:03,270 --> 00:49:01,520
the accuracy of any of the three of them

1276
00:49:04,549 --> 00:49:03,280
when they are describing a domain about

1277
00:49:07,349 --> 00:49:04,559
which i have zero professional

1278
00:49:10,309 --> 00:49:07,359
credentials like when uri geller said

1279
00:49:12,549 --> 00:49:10,319
who waxes eloquently about things he saw

1280
00:49:14,870 --> 00:49:12,559
among the water floating around earth

1281
00:49:16,870 --> 00:49:14,880
rights that he sees in alaska

1282
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:16,880
writes uh and then he's looking out over

1283
00:49:19,670 --> 00:49:18,400
the water and seeing something elevate

1284
00:49:21,190 --> 00:49:19,680
out of the water and all that stuff

1285
00:49:22,870 --> 00:49:21,200
that's in his book i don't know anything

1286
00:49:24,390 --> 00:49:22,880
about those things

1287
00:49:25,829 --> 00:49:24,400
when one of those people talks about

1288
00:49:27,910 --> 00:49:25,839
looking under the earth and seeing

1289
00:49:29,829 --> 00:49:27,920
things that are subterranean

1290
00:49:31,910 --> 00:49:29,839
subterranean i don't know anything about

1291
00:49:33,990 --> 00:49:31,920
that stuff as far as i'm concerned that

1292
00:49:36,150 --> 00:49:34,000
all sounds you know when pat price talks

1293
00:49:38,069 --> 00:49:36,160
about cloud formations in part of the

1294
00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:38,079
earth that he sees right over a

1295
00:49:42,829 --> 00:49:40,720
submarine base and all that i can't that

1296
00:49:45,670 --> 00:49:42,839
all sounds nuts and crazy

1297
00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:45,680
but when those people i named talk about

1298
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:47,920
something that i know that i can verify

1299
00:49:52,630 --> 00:49:50,640
myself they're a hundred percent and

1300
00:49:54,710 --> 00:49:52,640
that tends to be medical or if not

1301
00:49:56,790 --> 00:49:54,720
medical it tends to be things about

1302
00:49:59,190 --> 00:49:56,800
people's interactions with people where

1303
00:50:01,910 --> 00:49:59,200
i can talk to people involved the people

1304
00:50:03,270 --> 00:50:01,920
involved so in other words he's saying

1305
00:50:05,109 --> 00:50:03,280
you can um

1306
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:05,119
as long as he can he's talking about

1307
00:50:08,870 --> 00:50:07,200
feedback if somebody says by the way i

1308
00:50:11,109 --> 00:50:08,880
just remote viewed that this person that

1309
00:50:13,349 --> 00:50:11,119
you made me remote view has a tumor on

1310
00:50:15,430 --> 00:50:13,359
the right side of their chest kit green

1311
00:50:17,190 --> 00:50:15,440
can go get it mri and confirm that so

1312
00:50:18,549 --> 00:50:17,200
that's what he's talking about and those

1313
00:50:20,870 --> 00:50:18,559
people when they give him information

1314
00:50:23,030 --> 00:50:20,880
that he can verify they're close to 100

1315
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:23,040
percent accurate and the uri eri geller

1316
00:50:28,069 --> 00:50:25,200
people who think he's a total fraud i'm

1317
00:50:30,069 --> 00:50:28,079
sorry that if that upsets you but

1318
00:50:32,150 --> 00:50:30,079
uh kit green was in the program very

1319
00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:32,160
early before it even started

1320
00:50:35,430 --> 00:50:34,000
anyway

1321
00:50:38,470 --> 00:50:35,440
and i

1322
00:50:42,230 --> 00:50:38,480
i'm gonna look at some comments here

1323
00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:42,240
um dexter how you doing i'm doing good

1324
00:50:47,910 --> 00:50:46,870
i'm catching up probably sounds like

1325
00:50:49,829 --> 00:50:47,920
green was trying to determine the

1326
00:50:52,829 --> 00:50:49,839
seniors was left behind on experiences

1327
00:50:59,190 --> 00:50:55,670
um yeah that was in the peniston book

1328
00:51:03,510 --> 00:51:01,430
signatures and trying to figure out i

1329
00:51:07,109 --> 00:51:03,520
need to go over that again

1330
00:51:13,670 --> 00:51:09,030
he said propulsion but i don't know why

1331
00:51:16,630 --> 00:51:14,790
anyway

1332
00:51:20,390 --> 00:51:16,640
i'm sorry if i lost my train of thought

1333
00:51:25,510 --> 00:51:21,750
yeah anything remote viewing

1334
00:51:26,630 --> 00:51:25,520
metaphysical cannot cannot

1335
00:51:28,309 --> 00:51:26,640
confirm

1336
00:51:29,990 --> 00:51:28,319
just like this the extraterrestrial

1337
00:51:32,549 --> 00:51:30,000
stuff that the

1338
00:51:35,109 --> 00:51:32,559
the intuitive that the transcript on my

1339
00:51:36,510 --> 00:51:35,119
blog which is up he can't confirm that

1340
00:51:39,990 --> 00:51:36,520
stuff she talks about

1341
00:51:43,670 --> 00:51:40,000
extraterrestrials and under-based stuff

1342
00:51:47,750 --> 00:51:45,510
blah blah blah

1343
00:51:49,670 --> 00:51:47,760
it's like i know it's like

1344
00:51:52,710 --> 00:51:49,680
for him it's blah blah blah it's like

1345
00:51:55,589 --> 00:51:52,720
this is 1930 kid this is not blah blah

1346
00:51:58,150 --> 00:51:55,599
blah if your parents really saw a trans

1347
00:52:00,230 --> 00:51:58,160
medium craft in 1930 i'm pretty sure

1348
00:52:02,630 --> 00:52:00,240
most folks would agree that's not black

1349
00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:02,640
technology so

1350
00:52:06,309 --> 00:52:04,720
all right for people who read the vice

1351
00:52:08,630 --> 00:52:06,319
article

1352
00:52:10,710 --> 00:52:08,640
this is going to be boring for you

1353
00:52:12,790 --> 00:52:10,720
because i want to go to that

1354
00:52:14,790 --> 00:52:12,800
because we start getting into the

1355
00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:14,800
back into the caught up caught eight

1356
00:52:18,390 --> 00:52:17,520
potato and potatoman and nolan has done

1357
00:52:21,430 --> 00:52:18,400
interviews

1358
00:52:23,829 --> 00:52:21,440
in the past he did an interview with um

1359
00:52:26,630 --> 00:52:23,839
james ian doley and he did an interview

1360
00:52:32,069 --> 00:52:29,589
the the brief mj banayas he did an

1361
00:52:34,069 --> 00:52:32,079
interview with i'm not sure if james did

1362
00:52:38,069 --> 00:52:34,079
an interview but he had an article on it

1363
00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:40,790
phenomenon radio with with linda moulton

1364
00:52:43,349 --> 00:52:42,480
howe

1365
00:52:44,870 --> 00:52:43,359
and

1366
00:52:47,589 --> 00:52:44,880
john burroughs

1367
00:52:48,870 --> 00:52:47,599
and now i need to find

1368
00:52:51,750 --> 00:52:48,880
his

1369
00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:51,760
vice interview that came out of course i

1370
00:52:58,470 --> 00:52:54,480
cannot find it which is

1371
00:53:00,870 --> 00:52:58,480
oh yeah yeah i want to get back into

1372
00:53:02,510 --> 00:53:00,880
sorry i have to find it um if you guys

1373
00:53:03,829 --> 00:53:02,520
have any questions in the meantime

1374
00:53:07,990 --> 00:53:03,839
[Music]

1375
00:53:15,510 --> 00:53:11,430
so i will go to i know what i'll go to

1376
00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:15,520
before that i will go to my twitter

1377
00:53:21,829 --> 00:53:18,960
and this was the day it came out

1378
00:53:26,950 --> 00:53:24,630
and i was not expecting it and there's a

1379
00:53:29,750 --> 00:53:26,960
paper that came out

1380
00:53:31,510 --> 00:53:29,760
uh about testing of materials

1381
00:53:33,109 --> 00:53:31,520
i have the paper but

1382
00:53:34,470 --> 00:53:33,119
there's no there's no definitive

1383
00:53:35,990 --> 00:53:34,480
conclusion in the paper it's just the

1384
00:53:37,750 --> 00:53:36,000
beginning they're

1385
00:53:39,589 --> 00:53:37,760
how they test it's a new way to test

1386
00:53:42,470 --> 00:53:39,599
very very very

1387
00:53:46,230 --> 00:53:42,480
sensitive equipment in his lab and it's

1388
00:53:48,950 --> 00:53:46,240
the beginning it was in a reputable

1389
00:53:50,230 --> 00:53:48,960
journal so that's the big part of it

1390
00:53:52,470 --> 00:53:50,240
and it's going to go from there it

1391
00:53:55,109 --> 00:53:52,480
didn't receive a lot of attention like

1392
00:53:56,710 --> 00:53:55,119
this didn't receive a lot of attention

1393
00:53:58,870 --> 00:53:56,720
surprisingly like i said some people

1394
00:54:04,309 --> 00:53:58,880
didn't even know about it

1395
00:54:04,319 --> 00:54:07,829
this is me

1396
00:54:11,030 --> 00:54:09,109
i don't know what the hell i'm saying

1397
00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:11,040
here rally kit green eric davis and

1398
00:54:14,309 --> 00:54:12,640
column keller all roles lead to them

1399
00:54:15,829 --> 00:54:14,319
when it comes to uap

1400
00:54:17,829 --> 00:54:15,839
that's that's dr

1401
00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:17,839
that's nolan sorry that's nolan in the

1402
00:54:21,990 --> 00:54:20,400
article in the in the vice article

1403
00:54:24,710 --> 00:54:22,000
i need to i need to pull up the vice

1404
00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:24,720
article um in cases with injuries i have

1405
00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:26,240
my private thoughts about what i think

1406
00:54:29,750 --> 00:54:28,079
is going on and some of them

1407
00:54:31,589 --> 00:54:29,760
i'm very sure about i'm open to being

1408
00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:31,599
wrong except most of the time i know i'm

1409
00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:33,280
right so i do not know his private

1410
00:54:37,430 --> 00:54:34,960
thoughts about what's what he thinks is

1411
00:54:40,069 --> 00:54:37,440
going on i would love to know that maybe

1412
00:54:44,630 --> 00:54:40,079
if i go to vice

1413
00:54:48,390 --> 00:54:46,390
let's see

1414
00:54:49,990 --> 00:54:48,400
yes i can

1415
00:54:51,510 --> 00:54:50,000
so i will pull that up and i'll get

1416
00:54:55,990 --> 00:54:51,520
ready and see if you guys have any

1417
00:54:59,109 --> 00:54:57,510
caught up

1418
00:55:04,230 --> 00:54:59,119
let me get this

1419
00:55:06,470 --> 00:55:05,190
yeah

1420
00:55:07,910 --> 00:55:06,480
that's funny that you were able to catch

1421
00:55:10,069 --> 00:55:07,920
up by listening

1422
00:55:11,510 --> 00:55:10,079
uh twice feed

1423
00:55:13,030 --> 00:55:11,520
yeah you're welcome

1424
00:55:14,470 --> 00:55:13,040
this is one of my favorite things to go

1425
00:55:16,630 --> 00:55:14,480
over kit green stuff because a lot of

1426
00:55:18,069 --> 00:55:16,640
people don't know it and for me

1427
00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:18,079
it was a lot of it was new to me to go

1428
00:55:23,349 --> 00:55:21,599
over again today so let's see one second

1429
00:55:29,109 --> 00:55:23,359
i will just take a drink

1430
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:32,829
kidding no whiskey

1431
00:55:32,839 --> 00:55:37,270
ah ads

1432
00:55:41,030 --> 00:55:40,069
and i can't close it on there

1433
00:55:47,829 --> 00:55:41,040
so

1434
00:55:49,829 --> 00:55:47,839
university his research ranges from

1435
00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:49,839
cancer to systems

1436
00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:51,520
immunology

1437
00:55:54,549 --> 00:55:53,440
dr nolan has also spent the last 10

1438
00:55:56,549 --> 00:55:54,559
years working with the number of

1439
00:56:04,710 --> 00:55:56,559
individual analyzing materials from

1440
00:56:08,309 --> 00:56:06,710
his rebut if you hear me go silent for a

1441
00:56:10,870 --> 00:56:08,319
second i'm muting myself and yelling at

1442
00:56:13,589 --> 00:56:10,880
the dog for biting himself

1443
00:56:16,710 --> 00:56:13,599
his robust robust resume 300 research

1444
00:56:18,870 --> 00:56:16,720
articles 40 u.s patents founding of

1445
00:56:21,670 --> 00:56:18,880
eight biotech companies and honored as

1446
00:56:24,069 --> 00:56:21,680
one of stanford's top 25 inventors makes

1447
00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:24,079
him easily one of the most accomplished

1448
00:56:33,910 --> 00:56:27,760
scientists publicly studying uaps

1449
00:56:38,150 --> 00:56:36,630
motherboard sat down with dr nolan

1450
00:56:39,829 --> 00:56:38,160
did this talk with him blah blah blah

1451
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:39,839
edited for length and clarity the first

1452
00:56:43,670 --> 00:56:41,680
version was changed because they made

1453
00:56:45,430 --> 00:56:43,680
mistakes so this is the the newer

1454
00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:45,440
version

1455
00:56:49,829 --> 00:56:47,760
uh and there's an interview he did with

1456
00:56:52,630 --> 00:56:49,839
jesse michaels for american alchemy

1457
00:56:54,230 --> 00:56:52,640
which i finished transcribing today

1458
00:56:56,549 --> 00:56:54,240
which was originally transcribed by

1459
00:56:58,309 --> 00:56:56,559
david hayth and i added my own

1460
00:57:00,230 --> 00:56:58,319
twist and changed it a little bit

1461
00:57:02,309 --> 00:57:00,240
because i have my specific way of doing

1462
00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:02,319
transcripts

1463
00:57:04,950 --> 00:57:03,599
the motherboard

1464
00:57:07,670 --> 00:57:04,960
how long have you been interested in

1465
00:57:09,190 --> 00:57:07,680
uaps dr nolan

1466
00:57:10,710 --> 00:57:09,200
i've always been an avid reader of

1467
00:57:12,230 --> 00:57:10,720
science fiction so it was natural at

1468
00:57:13,829 --> 00:57:12,240
some point that when youtube videos

1469
00:57:16,230 --> 00:57:13,839
about ufos began

1470
00:57:19,750 --> 00:57:16,240
to make the rounds i might watch a few i

1471
00:57:21,430 --> 00:57:19,760
noticed a guy at the time dr greer uh oh

1472
00:57:24,069 --> 00:57:21,440
had claimed that a little skeleton might

1473
00:57:26,309 --> 00:57:24,079
be an alien i remember thinking oh i can

1474
00:57:28,470 --> 00:57:26,319
prove or disprove that so i reached out

1475
00:57:30,150 --> 00:57:28,480
to him i eventually showed it was not an

1476
00:57:32,470 --> 00:57:30,160
alien it was human

1477
00:57:34,549 --> 00:57:32,480
we explained it fair amount about why it

1478
00:57:36,950 --> 00:57:34,559
looked that way the way it did i had a

1479
00:57:39,109 --> 00:57:36,960
number of mutations in skeletal it had a

1480
00:57:40,309 --> 00:57:39,119
number of mutations in skeletal genes

1481
00:57:42,789 --> 00:57:40,319
that could potentially explain the

1482
00:57:46,069 --> 00:57:42,799
biology the ufo community didn't like me

1483
00:57:47,589 --> 00:57:46,079
saying that so i had people coming at me

1484
00:57:49,270 --> 00:57:47,599
when i was promoting

1485
00:57:52,230 --> 00:57:49,280
nolan a couple of years ago saying he is

1486
00:57:54,870 --> 00:57:52,240
a fraud he's part of the cover-up that's

1487
00:57:56,470 --> 00:57:54,880
an alien skeleton

1488
00:57:57,910 --> 00:57:56,480
the ufo community didn't like me saying

1489
00:57:59,589 --> 00:57:57,920
that you know but the truth is in the

1490
00:58:01,589 --> 00:57:59,599
science so i had no problems stating the

1491
00:58:03,430 --> 00:58:01,599
facts we published a paper and it ended

1492
00:58:05,990 --> 00:58:03,440
up going worldwide it was on the front

1493
00:58:08,230 --> 00:58:06,000
page of just about every newspaper major

1494
00:58:10,950 --> 00:58:08,240
newspaper what's more appealing or click

1495
00:58:12,789 --> 00:58:10,960
bait than stanford professor sequences

1496
00:58:14,630 --> 00:58:12,799
alien baby

1497
00:58:17,109 --> 00:58:14,640
and there's a picture of ata i think

1498
00:58:19,430 --> 00:58:17,119
they called it at the tacoma

1499
00:58:21,270 --> 00:58:19,440
skeleton

1500
00:58:23,430 --> 00:58:21,280
there are people mad

1501
00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:23,440
that no one even got involved in that

1502
00:58:28,390 --> 00:58:25,760
they should have not it's desecration of

1503
00:58:30,470 --> 00:58:28,400
that skeleton

1504
00:58:32,950 --> 00:58:30,480
all right um

1505
00:58:34,630 --> 00:58:32,960
i'm glad he i'm glad he did it

1506
00:58:36,309 --> 00:58:34,640
uh that ended up bringing me to the

1507
00:58:38,390 --> 00:58:36,319
attention of some people associated with

1508
00:58:42,630 --> 00:58:38,400
the cia and some aeronautics

1509
00:58:47,190 --> 00:58:45,670
i'm looking at comments

1510
00:58:55,510 --> 00:58:47,200
people have asked me about ramirez

1511
00:58:57,910 --> 00:58:56,549
i mean

1512
00:58:59,910 --> 00:58:57,920
i've written

1513
00:59:01,589 --> 00:58:59,920
i've tweeted i've spoken about david ike

1514
00:59:03,829 --> 00:59:01,599
and i get slammed

1515
00:59:05,109 --> 00:59:03,839
for bringing up ike for several reasons

1516
00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:05,119
which i don't need to get into which i

1517
00:59:17,510 --> 00:59:09,990
i

1518
00:59:20,309 --> 00:59:17,520
that

1519
00:59:22,150 --> 00:59:20,319
know

1520
00:59:23,510 --> 00:59:22,160
it's never come up in

1521
00:59:25,990 --> 00:59:23,520
i've never had it come up in any of the

1522
00:59:27,430 --> 00:59:26,000
people i've spoken to except one time

1523
00:59:28,789 --> 00:59:27,440
somebody said there's a lot of stuff

1524
00:59:30,829 --> 00:59:28,799
going on but they didn't say

1525
00:59:34,390 --> 00:59:30,839
specifically reptilians

1526
00:59:36,710 --> 00:59:34,400
um i'm open to the possibility that and

1527
00:59:38,710 --> 00:59:36,720
nolan goes over this in his interview

1528
00:59:40,470 --> 00:59:38,720
in the one i transcribed

1529
00:59:43,349 --> 00:59:40,480
that

1530
00:59:45,190 --> 00:59:43,359
what we're seeing as far as beings is

1531
00:59:47,349 --> 00:59:45,200
nolan says that it's maybe just the way

1532
00:59:50,390 --> 00:59:47,359
to communicate with us it's so it's so

1533
00:59:53,030 --> 00:59:50,400
alien to us that they are using beings

1534
00:59:55,750 --> 00:59:53,040
maybe they're ai he doesn't say ai but

1535
00:59:57,589 --> 00:59:55,760
maybe that's just a way just like we

1536
01:00:00,150 --> 00:59:57,599
want to communicate with animals we'll

1537
01:00:02,069 --> 01:00:00,160
put it in a little fake animal like a

1538
01:00:03,510 --> 01:00:02,079
fake animal to get them you know

1539
01:00:05,030 --> 01:00:03,520
accustomed to it maybe that's what

1540
01:00:07,270 --> 01:00:05,040
they're doing maybe reptilians are greys

1541
01:00:09,349 --> 01:00:07,280
they're all ai they're all just made

1542
01:00:11,670 --> 01:00:09,359
that's really not that's really not

1543
01:00:13,910 --> 01:00:11,680
represented represented

1544
01:00:16,309 --> 01:00:13,920
representative of the phenomenon that's

1545
01:00:17,750 --> 01:00:16,319
just like as i've said before a proxy

1546
01:00:19,030 --> 01:00:17,760
that they use

1547
01:00:21,030 --> 01:00:19,040
um

1548
01:00:23,589 --> 01:00:21,040
the real thing may not be anything

1549
01:00:25,030 --> 01:00:23,599
physical you know um but it's

1550
01:00:26,470 --> 01:00:25,040
speculation

1551
01:00:29,589 --> 01:00:26,480
that's really all i have to say about

1552
01:00:31,829 --> 01:00:29,599
ramirez i i know he's made the rounds

1553
01:00:33,109 --> 01:00:31,839
he's reached out to me but it's like i

1554
01:00:34,390 --> 01:00:33,119
don't really want to keep doing the same

1555
01:00:36,230 --> 01:00:34,400
interviews with people that are going

1556
01:00:39,190 --> 01:00:36,240
around doing the same shows i just i'd

1557
01:00:41,910 --> 01:00:39,200
rather do this which is different

1558
01:00:43,990 --> 01:00:41,920
i'd rather do this and i'm not doing it

1559
01:00:45,910 --> 01:00:44,000
for any reason it's just because i like

1560
01:00:47,910 --> 01:00:45,920
that's what i like to talk i do like to

1561
01:00:51,829 --> 01:00:47,920
write more than talk but anyway that's

1562
01:00:55,510 --> 01:00:54,069
yeah the whiskey

1563
01:00:57,349 --> 01:00:55,520
it's uh

1564
01:01:02,549 --> 01:00:57,359
i don't like i don't like whiskey i do

1565
01:01:07,670 --> 01:01:05,670
pull out harris about to uh

1566
01:01:11,510 --> 01:01:07,680
i don't i don't i don't want to spend

1567
01:01:13,750 --> 01:01:11,520
any time on that atacama thing it's just

1568
01:01:15,190 --> 01:01:13,760
when it comes to science i trust i trust

1569
01:01:17,190 --> 01:01:15,200
gary nolan i

1570
01:01:19,510 --> 01:01:17,200
i i don't know what paula harris thinks

1571
01:01:21,910 --> 01:01:19,520
about it but i know gary nolan also said

1572
01:01:23,510 --> 01:01:21,920
that the starchild skull was not

1573
01:01:25,910 --> 01:01:23,520
anomalous and i was friends with lloyd

1574
01:01:27,270 --> 01:01:25,920
pie who held that s star child skull for

1575
01:01:27,770 --> 01:01:27,280
a long time

1576
01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:27,780
um

1577
01:01:31,270 --> 01:01:29,200
[Music]

1578
01:01:32,870 --> 01:01:31,280
passed away a few years ago

1579
01:01:34,630 --> 01:01:32,880
but nolan

1580
01:01:35,670 --> 01:01:34,640
nolan's obviously we read his interviews

1581
01:01:37,349 --> 01:01:35,680
he's open

1582
01:01:39,589 --> 01:01:37,359
to the extraterrestrial to the

1583
01:01:41,670 --> 01:01:39,599
hyperdimensional i mean interdimensional

1584
01:01:43,109 --> 01:01:41,680
i don't think he's you know

1585
01:01:44,789 --> 01:01:43,119
somebody that

1586
01:01:46,390 --> 01:01:44,799
harris can debate but somebody else

1587
01:01:50,950 --> 01:01:46,400
could do the debate i'm not going over

1588
01:01:55,990 --> 01:01:54,549
he caught up with 3.25 the speed

1589
01:01:57,510 --> 01:01:56,000
we're in a symbiotic relationship with

1590
01:01:59,829 --> 01:01:57,520
an intelligence that masquerades at the

1591
01:02:01,589 --> 01:01:59,839
end i read that quote and i didn't i

1592
01:02:03,190 --> 01:02:01,599
don't think it came up with it on my own

1593
01:02:04,150 --> 01:02:03,200
i read it from other people like ballet

1594
01:02:07,029 --> 01:02:04,160
and

1595
01:02:08,390 --> 01:02:07,039
i love that quote from mckenna because

1596
01:02:11,270 --> 01:02:08,400
valet and

1597
01:02:12,069 --> 01:02:11,280
kiel say stuff i think more keel

1598
01:02:13,670 --> 01:02:12,079
um

1599
01:02:15,589 --> 01:02:13,680
in us we're in a symbiotic relationship

1600
01:02:17,109 --> 01:02:15,599
with an intelligence that masquerades as

1601
01:02:19,589 --> 01:02:17,119
an alien invasion

1602
01:02:21,430 --> 01:02:19,599
as in order not to alarm us i don't know

1603
01:02:24,950 --> 01:02:21,440
if that's why they do it but i

1604
01:02:26,309 --> 01:02:24,960
definitely lean in that direction today

1605
01:02:27,349 --> 01:02:26,319
tomorrow you could show me something

1606
01:02:28,710 --> 01:02:27,359
else

1607
01:02:30,390 --> 01:02:28,720
um

1608
01:02:33,670 --> 01:02:30,400
you know and i could say something

1609
01:02:37,029 --> 01:02:33,680
different but i do like that explanation

1610
01:02:39,349 --> 01:02:37,039
what i just i just think there's

1611
01:02:42,069 --> 01:02:39,359
assuming some of the injuries are from

1612
01:02:44,470 --> 01:02:42,079
non-human technology i just think

1613
01:02:45,910 --> 01:02:44,480
this intelligence wouldn't it would seem

1614
01:02:47,349 --> 01:02:45,920
that they wouldn't care about us they

1615
01:02:49,270 --> 01:02:47,359
might be above us on the food chain like

1616
01:02:51,190 --> 01:02:49,280
i've talked about before like when we

1617
01:02:53,349 --> 01:02:51,200
step on ants or we kill a gear in the

1618
01:02:55,829 --> 01:02:53,359
middle of the road and it sucks but it's

1619
01:02:57,990 --> 01:02:55,839
like oh well we're living our lives

1620
01:03:01,670 --> 01:02:58,000
maybe that's that may be what's going on

1621
01:03:04,470 --> 01:03:03,029
so

1622
01:03:05,990 --> 01:03:04,480
i get the feeling kit green knows more

1623
01:03:08,309 --> 01:03:06,000
than you realize oh i'm sure kate green

1624
01:03:09,750 --> 01:03:08,319
does know more um there's one interview

1625
01:03:11,670 --> 01:03:09,760
he talks about

1626
01:03:13,589 --> 01:03:11,680
programs he's been right into it's

1627
01:03:16,230 --> 01:03:13,599
actually in my interview which i haven't

1628
01:03:18,069 --> 01:03:16,240
read in so long which i need to i will

1629
01:03:19,829 --> 01:03:18,079
reach out to him soon and ask him if he

1630
01:03:21,270 --> 01:03:19,839
says no he doesn't want to finish and

1631
01:03:25,190 --> 01:03:21,280
let me do follow-ups then i'll just put

1632
01:03:26,549 --> 01:03:25,200
it out i'll i'll fix it the typos

1633
01:03:27,910 --> 01:03:26,559
i'll edit it to make sure he doesn't

1634
01:03:29,910 --> 01:03:27,920
repeat himself because it was an

1635
01:03:31,610 --> 01:03:29,920
informal interview but i was recording

1636
01:03:33,990 --> 01:03:31,620
he knew i was recording um

1637
01:03:35,430 --> 01:03:34,000
[Music]

1638
01:03:38,150 --> 01:03:35,440
as far as me not catching on to what

1639
01:03:40,230 --> 01:03:38,160
he's implying

1640
01:03:41,589 --> 01:03:40,240
it depends i mean

1641
01:03:43,510 --> 01:03:41,599
i need to talk to him again i need to

1642
01:03:45,430 --> 01:03:43,520
get stuff clarified because he said that

1643
01:03:46,710 --> 01:03:45,440
the book uh skinwalkers at the pentagon

1644
01:03:47,750 --> 01:03:46,720
basically has everything you need to

1645
01:03:49,430 --> 01:03:47,760
know

1646
01:03:52,230 --> 01:03:49,440
um

1647
01:03:53,670 --> 01:03:52,240
i don't know what his hypothesis is but

1648
01:03:54,789 --> 01:03:53,680
some of the people who are injured by

1649
01:03:56,950 --> 01:03:54,799
bla if it

1650
01:03:59,349 --> 01:03:56,960
i've said this before

1651
01:04:01,430 --> 01:03:59,359
the oregon case the person's injured by

1652
01:04:02,789 --> 01:04:01,440
an orb and then the daughter goes home

1653
01:04:03,990 --> 01:04:02,799
the father's injured the daughter goes

1654
01:04:07,190 --> 01:04:04,000
home and it's

1655
01:04:09,270 --> 01:04:07,200
hitchhiker type effects in her house i

1656
01:04:10,950 --> 01:04:09,280
don't think that's black technology so

1657
01:04:13,190 --> 01:04:10,960
people are being injured by something

1658
01:04:15,750 --> 01:04:13,200
that's not human so i don't know if it's

1659
01:04:17,349 --> 01:04:15,760
a mix of black technology

1660
01:04:19,990 --> 01:04:17,359
you know you'll see in this article

1661
01:04:22,870 --> 01:04:20,000
skinwalker ranch and this you know mix

1662
01:04:23,990 --> 01:04:22,880
of non-human or whatever and human i

1663
01:04:26,150 --> 01:04:24,000
don't know

1664
01:04:29,349 --> 01:04:26,160
um but i'm open-minded to some of it

1665
01:04:35,829 --> 01:04:32,150
why am i not seeing all of your comments

1666
01:04:40,950 --> 01:04:37,990
um try to get an interview ramirez he

1667
01:04:42,390 --> 01:04:40,960
always has something new to say i mean

1668
01:04:44,630 --> 01:04:42,400
maybe

1669
01:04:46,950 --> 01:04:44,640
like pie was great i met him at his

1670
01:04:48,230 --> 01:04:46,960
lecture in florida we became friends um

1671
01:04:50,870 --> 01:04:48,240
he came back to florida one day and i

1672
01:04:52,470 --> 01:04:50,880
got to he went to the local news station

1673
01:04:55,990 --> 01:04:52,480
i interviewed him and i went along with

1674
01:04:58,230 --> 01:04:56,000
him and yeah he was a

1675
01:05:00,710 --> 01:04:58,240
a great presenter he was a big believer

1676
01:05:02,710 --> 01:05:00,720
in the sitchin stuff which i'm not so

1677
01:05:07,670 --> 01:05:02,720
sure about

1678
01:05:12,069 --> 01:05:09,029
i don't know if you guys could i'm not

1679
01:05:15,589 --> 01:05:13,510
message from you guys when i put it up i

1680
01:05:17,510 --> 01:05:15,599
don't know if you can see it

1681
01:05:19,589 --> 01:05:17,520
the russian greys thought on annie

1682
01:05:22,789 --> 01:05:19,599
jacobs in the russian graves i know

1683
01:05:23,589 --> 01:05:22,799
i think knapp spoke to the same person

1684
01:05:25,270 --> 01:05:23,599
and

1685
01:05:26,230 --> 01:05:25,280
had a different take that same person

1686
01:05:28,309 --> 01:05:26,240
that

1687
01:05:31,430 --> 01:05:28,319
annie jacobson spoke to and he spoke to

1688
01:05:33,589 --> 01:05:31,440
that person before they died obviously

1689
01:05:35,670 --> 01:05:33,599
totally different take you know

1690
01:05:37,349 --> 01:05:35,680
roswell was not human

1691
01:05:40,870 --> 01:05:37,359
there was i think that person said there

1692
01:05:41,750 --> 01:05:40,880
was a live alien at area 51 at one point

1693
01:05:44,069 --> 01:05:41,760
um

1694
01:05:51,670 --> 01:05:46,390
anyway

1695
01:05:55,829 --> 01:05:53,910
so his work uh brought the attention of

1696
01:05:58,390 --> 01:05:55,839
some folks at the associated with the

1697
01:05:59,910 --> 01:05:58,400
cia and some aeronautics corporations

1698
01:06:01,430 --> 01:05:59,920
at the time they had been investigating

1699
01:06:04,549 --> 01:06:01,440
a number of cases of pilots who had

1700
01:06:07,349 --> 01:06:04,559
gotten close oh by the way in in in the

1701
01:06:09,029 --> 01:06:07,359
in the article the paper that valet and

1702
01:06:10,870 --> 01:06:09,039
and um

1703
01:06:13,109 --> 01:06:10,880
nolan wrote and larry lemke and there's

1704
01:06:14,549 --> 01:06:13,119
one more person whose name i don't have

1705
01:06:16,870 --> 01:06:14,559
offhand

1706
01:06:19,270 --> 01:06:16,880
they also you know nolan they talk about

1707
01:06:20,870 --> 01:06:19,280
the atip stuff so it's it brings up

1708
01:06:23,029 --> 01:06:20,880
those subjects in that paper and that's

1709
01:06:24,630 --> 01:06:23,039
a mainstream paper so it'll get people

1710
01:06:26,789 --> 01:06:24,640
thinking it's just the very beginning

1711
01:06:28,150 --> 01:06:26,799
it's not the smoking gun i tweeted out a

1712
01:06:30,309 --> 01:06:28,160
couple of months ago to lower

1713
01:06:32,549 --> 01:06:30,319
expectations but because i heard it was

1714
01:06:34,150 --> 01:06:32,559
not going to be a smoking gun it's just

1715
01:06:35,190 --> 01:06:34,160
the beginning of a process of how

1716
01:06:37,910 --> 01:06:35,200
they're going to be testing these

1717
01:06:39,750 --> 01:06:37,920
materials with their fancy smanchi

1718
01:06:42,150 --> 01:06:39,760
equipment which i read the whole paper

1719
01:06:43,109 --> 01:06:42,160
and i'm telling you it's so far over my

1720
01:06:45,109 --> 01:06:43,119
head

1721
01:06:48,710 --> 01:06:45,119
to understand that stuff

1722
01:06:52,789 --> 01:06:50,150
it talks about the pilots who had gotten

1723
01:06:55,910 --> 01:06:52,799
closest to close to i suppose uh uaps in

1724
01:06:57,510 --> 01:06:55,920
the field generated by them

1725
01:06:59,190 --> 01:06:57,520
as claimed by the people who showed up

1726
01:07:02,069 --> 01:06:59,200
at his office and there was enough drama

1727
01:07:04,630 --> 01:07:02,079
around the skeleton atta that i had

1728
01:07:06,870 --> 01:07:04,640
basically decided to forever force where

1729
01:07:08,390 --> 01:07:06,880
all continued involvement in this area

1730
01:07:09,829 --> 01:07:08,400
then these guys showed up and said we

1731
01:07:11,589 --> 01:07:09,839
need to help you with this because we

1732
01:07:13,670 --> 01:07:11,599
want to do blood analysis and everybody

1733
01:07:15,990 --> 01:07:13,680
says you've got the best blood analysis

1734
01:07:17,829 --> 01:07:16,000
instrumentation on the planet

1735
01:07:19,190 --> 01:07:17,839
then they started showing the mris of

1736
01:07:21,510 --> 01:07:19,200
some of these pilots and ground

1737
01:07:24,309 --> 01:07:21,520
personnel and intelligence agents who

1738
01:07:26,390 --> 01:07:24,319
had been damaged the mris were clear you

1739
01:07:28,950 --> 01:07:26,400
don't even have to be an md to see that

1740
01:07:31,670 --> 01:07:28,960
there was a problem some of their brains

1741
01:07:33,029 --> 01:07:31,680
were horribly horribly damaged

1742
01:07:35,109 --> 01:07:33,039
and so that's what kind of got me

1743
01:07:37,029 --> 01:07:35,119
involved if you guys have been over this

1744
01:07:39,430 --> 01:07:37,039
before i know there are people who don't

1745
01:07:51,670 --> 01:07:39,440
know about this article so you have to

1746
01:07:55,109 --> 01:07:53,510
does the department of pathology at

1747
01:07:56,950 --> 01:07:55,119
stanford have a track record of pulling

1748
01:07:58,470 --> 01:07:56,960
practical jokes on you

1749
01:08:00,230 --> 01:07:58,480
i thought it was a practical joke at the

1750
01:08:02,950 --> 01:08:00,240
beginning but no nobody was pulling a

1751
01:08:04,549 --> 01:08:02,960
practical joke and just as an aside the

1752
01:08:06,069 --> 01:08:04,559
school is completely supportive and

1753
01:08:08,710 --> 01:08:06,079
always has been of the work i've been

1754
01:08:10,309 --> 01:08:08,720
doing when the atacama

1755
01:08:11,670 --> 01:08:10,319
at a common thing hit the fan they

1756
01:08:14,150 --> 01:08:11,680
stepped in and helped me deal with the

1757
01:08:15,750 --> 01:08:14,160
public relations issues around it

1758
01:08:17,349 --> 01:08:15,760
are you able to mention which folks from

1759
01:08:20,550 --> 01:08:17,359
the government departments other than

1760
01:08:22,070 --> 01:08:20,560
aeronautics approached you no i am not

1761
01:08:23,829 --> 01:08:22,080
can you describe the more anomalous

1762
01:08:26,149 --> 01:08:23,839
effects on the brains you observed with

1763
01:08:27,829 --> 01:08:26,159
the mris

1764
01:08:29,829 --> 01:08:27,839
if you've ever looked at an mri of

1765
01:08:31,669 --> 01:08:29,839
somebody with multiple sclerosis there's

1766
01:08:34,309 --> 01:08:31,679
something called white matter disease

1767
01:08:36,950 --> 01:08:34,319
it's scarring it's a big white blob or

1768
01:08:39,030 --> 01:08:36,960
multiple white bloods blobs scattered

1769
01:08:40,870 --> 01:08:39,040
through the mri it's essentially dead

1770
01:08:43,110 --> 01:08:40,880
tissue where the immune system has

1771
01:08:44,870 --> 01:08:43,120
attacked a brain that's probably the

1772
01:08:46,390 --> 01:08:44,880
closest thing that you could come to if

1773
01:08:47,269 --> 01:08:46,400
you wanted to look at a snapshot from

1774
01:08:49,349 --> 01:08:47,279
one of those

1775
01:08:53,269 --> 01:08:49,359
individuals you can pretty quickly see

1776
01:08:55,430 --> 01:08:53,279
that there's something wrong

1777
01:08:57,189 --> 01:08:55,440
so the left is a normal brain

1778
01:08:59,430 --> 01:08:57,199
the right

1779
01:09:01,990 --> 01:08:59,440
is an injury and resulting white matter

1780
01:09:04,870 --> 01:09:03,510
how many patients did you take a look at

1781
01:09:07,110 --> 01:09:04,880
in the first phase

1782
01:09:09,430 --> 01:09:07,120
it was around 100 patients they were

1783
01:09:11,030 --> 01:09:09,440
almost all defense or governmental

1784
01:09:13,030 --> 01:09:11,040
personnel or people working in the

1785
01:09:14,630 --> 01:09:13,040
aerospace industry people doing

1786
01:09:16,950 --> 01:09:14,640
government level work

1787
01:09:19,430 --> 01:09:16,960
here's how it works let's say that a dod

1788
01:09:21,189 --> 01:09:19,440
personnel gets damaged or hurt

1789
01:09:23,269 --> 01:09:21,199
odd cases go up the chain of command at

1790
01:09:25,030 --> 01:09:23,279
least within the medical branch

1791
01:09:26,950 --> 01:09:25,040
and nobody knows what to do with it goes

1792
01:09:28,950 --> 01:09:26,960
over to what's called the weird desk

1793
01:09:30,630 --> 01:09:28,960
where things get thrown in a bucket and

1794
01:09:32,950 --> 01:09:30,640
by the way i did ask

1795
01:09:36,470 --> 01:09:32,960
kid green about the weird desk and

1796
01:09:38,470 --> 01:09:36,480
um i said

1797
01:09:39,990 --> 01:09:38,480
i always had this vision of the weird

1798
01:09:42,470 --> 01:09:40,000
desk somebody's sitting at the desk and

1799
01:09:44,630 --> 01:09:42,480
it's got all these ufo and psychic books

1800
01:09:47,590 --> 01:09:44,640
behind the person sitting there he's

1801
01:09:49,269 --> 01:09:47,600
like no ufo books no psychic books he

1802
01:09:52,070 --> 01:09:49,279
goes that was such a small part of what

1803
01:09:53,990 --> 01:09:52,080
i did with the cia i go does it annoy

1804
01:09:55,510 --> 01:09:54,000
you that people

1805
01:09:57,750 --> 01:09:55,520
that people always bring up the weird

1806
01:09:59,270 --> 01:09:57,760
desk and you when it was barely such a

1807
01:10:00,550 --> 01:09:59,280
small part was such a small part of what

1808
01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:00,560
you did he's like

1809
01:10:03,910 --> 01:10:02,560
yes it annoys me a lot i forget the word

1810
01:10:06,390 --> 01:10:03,920
he used i don't know if he said it

1811
01:10:07,750 --> 01:10:06,400
pisses him off but yes that's why he

1812
01:10:08,550 --> 01:10:07,760
said he wanted to do an interview with

1813
01:10:10,350 --> 01:10:08,560
me

1814
01:10:13,910 --> 01:10:10,360
back then on his

1815
01:10:15,750 --> 01:10:13,920
non-ufo and non-remote viewing work

1816
01:10:17,189 --> 01:10:15,760
that's most of what he does what's most

1817
01:10:20,470 --> 01:10:17,199
of what he did and now he's a he's a

1818
01:10:22,070 --> 01:10:20,480
medical doctor he's got a practice

1819
01:10:24,390 --> 01:10:22,080
so anyway

1820
01:10:25,590 --> 01:10:24,400
he goes somebody at the weirdest says oh

1821
01:10:27,830 --> 01:10:25,600
there's something interesting in this

1822
01:10:28,870 --> 01:10:27,840
bucket worth following up on

1823
01:10:31,750 --> 01:10:28,880
that

1824
01:10:33,430 --> 01:10:31,760
all look reasonably similar similar

1825
01:10:35,510 --> 01:10:33,440
science works by comparing things that

1826
01:10:37,590 --> 01:10:35,520
are similar and dissimilar to other

1827
01:10:39,750 --> 01:10:37,600
things enough people were having very

1828
01:10:40,470 --> 01:10:39,760
similar kinds of bad things happen to

1829
01:10:42,149 --> 01:10:40,480
them

1830
01:10:44,149 --> 01:10:42,159
that it came to the attention of a guy

1831
01:10:45,510 --> 01:10:44,159
by the name of dr kit green he was in

1832
01:10:47,110 --> 01:10:45,520
charge of studying some of these

1833
01:10:49,110 --> 01:10:47,120
individuals

1834
01:10:51,669 --> 01:10:49,120
you have a smorgasbord of patients some

1835
01:10:54,229 --> 01:10:51,679
of whom had heard weird noises buzzing

1836
01:10:56,709 --> 01:10:54,239
in their head got sick etc a reasonable

1837
01:10:58,870 --> 01:10:56,719
subset of them had claimed to have seen

1838
01:11:00,790 --> 01:10:58,880
uaps and some claim to be close to

1839
01:11:02,390 --> 01:11:00,800
things that got them sick let me show

1840
01:11:04,470 --> 01:11:02,400
you the mris of the brains of some of

1841
01:11:06,950 --> 01:11:04,480
these people

1842
01:11:09,910 --> 01:11:06,960
and here's a hypomorphism in the head of

1843
01:11:12,070 --> 01:11:09,920
the caudate pataman

1844
01:11:14,550 --> 01:11:12,080
so basically the part of the brain which

1845
01:11:16,470 --> 01:11:14,560
he talks about

1846
01:11:17,350 --> 01:11:16,480
and that's the photo and he says we

1847
01:11:19,270 --> 01:11:17,360
started to notice there were

1848
01:11:22,070 --> 01:11:19,280
similarities in what we thought was the

1849
01:11:23,910 --> 01:11:22,080
damage across multiple individuals as we

1850
01:11:25,189 --> 01:11:23,920
looked more closely though we realized

1851
01:11:27,189 --> 01:11:25,199
well

1852
01:11:30,070 --> 01:11:27,199
that can't be damaged because it's right

1853
01:11:32,149 --> 01:11:30,080
in the middle of the basal ganglia a

1854
01:11:35,189 --> 01:11:32,159
group of nuclei responsible for motor

1855
01:11:36,790 --> 01:11:35,199
control and other core brain functions

1856
01:11:39,510 --> 01:11:36,800
if those structures were severely

1857
01:11:40,950 --> 01:11:39,520
damaged these people would be dead

1858
01:11:43,430 --> 01:11:40,960
that was when we realized that these

1859
01:11:45,830 --> 01:11:43,440
people were not damaged but had an over

1860
01:11:48,390 --> 01:11:45,840
connection of neurons between the head

1861
01:11:50,149 --> 01:11:48,400
of the caudate and the putamen

1862
01:11:52,149 --> 01:11:50,159
the caudate nucleus plays a critical

1863
01:11:55,270 --> 01:11:52,159
role in various higher neurological

1864
01:11:57,669 --> 01:11:55,280
functions the potamin influences motor

1865
01:11:59,910 --> 01:11:57,679
planning learning and execution if you

1866
01:12:01,990 --> 01:11:59,920
looked at a hundred average people

1867
01:12:04,630 --> 01:12:02,000
you wouldn't see this kind of density

1868
01:12:07,590 --> 01:12:04,640
but these individuals had it an open

1869
01:12:12,870 --> 01:12:07,600
question is did coming in contact with

1870
01:12:14,709 --> 01:12:12,880
with whatever it was cause it or not

1871
01:12:16,310 --> 01:12:14,719
he answers that in the other interview

1872
01:12:18,790 --> 01:12:16,320
i'm not sure if he answers it here where

1873
01:12:21,990 --> 01:12:18,800
he says some of the folks who had mris

1874
01:12:23,030 --> 01:12:22,000
before they had this encounter

1875
01:12:23,990 --> 01:12:23,040
had

1876
01:12:27,110 --> 01:12:24,000
you know

1877
01:12:28,870 --> 01:12:27,120
the nerve bundles were

1878
01:12:30,470 --> 01:12:28,880
more dense of course you could always

1879
01:12:32,149 --> 01:12:30,480
say well maybe they had an experience at

1880
01:12:34,310 --> 01:12:32,159
a younger age in life

1881
01:12:35,990 --> 01:12:34,320
and that caused the density of the

1882
01:12:40,550 --> 01:12:36,000
neurons and they just don't remember

1883
01:12:51,189 --> 01:12:42,470
and i'm going to pause one second so i

1884
01:12:55,270 --> 01:12:52,870
for a couple of these individuals we had

1885
01:12:57,430 --> 01:12:55,280
mris from prior years they had it here

1886
01:12:59,350 --> 01:12:57,440
we go they had it before they had these

1887
01:13:01,110 --> 01:12:59,360
incidents it was prob it was pretty

1888
01:13:03,030 --> 01:13:01,120
obvious then that this was something

1889
01:13:05,110 --> 01:13:03,040
that people were born with

1890
01:13:07,270 --> 01:13:05,120
see my follow-up would be is it possible

1891
01:13:10,470 --> 01:13:07,280
they had another experience that they

1892
01:13:11,510 --> 01:13:10,480
don't remember and that's what caused it

1893
01:13:14,229 --> 01:13:11,520
um

1894
01:13:15,830 --> 01:13:14,239
anyway it's the goal sub goal setting

1895
01:13:17,189 --> 01:13:15,840
planning device it's called the brain

1896
01:13:19,110 --> 01:13:17,199
within the brain he's talking about the

1897
01:13:21,270 --> 01:13:19,120
caudate potato it's an extraordinary

1898
01:13:23,350 --> 01:13:21,280
thing this area of the brain is involved

1899
01:13:25,990 --> 01:13:23,360
partly in what we call intuition for

1900
01:13:27,830 --> 01:13:26,000
instance japanese chess players were

1901
01:13:30,229 --> 01:13:27,840
measured as they made what would be

1902
01:13:32,390 --> 01:13:30,239
construed as a brilliant decision that

1903
01:13:34,630 --> 01:13:32,400
is not obvious for anybody to have made

1904
01:13:37,030 --> 01:13:34,640
that kind of leap of intuition the area

1905
01:13:38,870 --> 01:13:37,040
of the brain lights up

1906
01:13:39,990 --> 01:13:38,880
we had found people who had the this in

1907
01:13:42,149 --> 01:13:40,000
spades

1908
01:13:43,750 --> 01:13:42,159
these are all so-called high-functioning

1909
01:13:46,229 --> 01:13:43,760
people they're pilots who are making

1910
01:13:49,510 --> 01:13:46,239
split-second decisions intelligence

1911
01:13:51,430 --> 01:13:49,520
officers in this field etc

1912
01:13:53,750 --> 01:13:51,440
everybody has this connectivity region

1913
01:13:57,510 --> 01:13:53,760
in general but let's say for the average

1914
01:14:00,390 --> 01:13:57,520
person that the density level is 1x

1915
01:14:04,070 --> 01:14:00,400
most of the people in the study had 5x

1916
01:14:06,470 --> 01:14:04,080
to 10x and up to 15x the normal density

1917
01:14:08,870 --> 01:14:06,480
in this region in this case we are

1918
01:14:12,790 --> 01:14:08,880
speculating that density implies some

1919
01:14:16,070 --> 01:14:14,229
and that's the correlation between

1920
01:14:17,669 --> 01:14:16,080
genetics and the caudate which i don't

1921
01:14:19,189 --> 01:14:17,679
think he talks about

1922
01:14:22,229 --> 01:14:19,199
he does in previous interviews though

1923
01:14:30,630 --> 01:14:22,239
which i need to transcribe

1924
01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:32,070
it looks like the brain damage from

1925
01:14:39,110 --> 01:14:34,480
inducing

1926
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:43,830
could be who knows i don't know

1927
01:14:46,790 --> 01:14:45,110
looks like the brain damage reducing

1928
01:14:48,790 --> 01:14:46,800
psychic activity some tissue areas get

1929
01:14:49,910 --> 01:14:48,800
flooded with focused influence most of

1930
01:14:53,910 --> 01:14:49,920
duckies will tell you before they get

1931
01:14:57,430 --> 01:14:55,510
pains and focus areas in the skull

1932
01:15:01,189 --> 01:14:57,440
including sensation

1933
01:15:05,590 --> 01:15:02,870
i didn't see her as his assessment was

1934
01:15:09,430 --> 01:15:05,600
did not see

1935
01:15:11,590 --> 01:15:09,440
what what did what did uh pics say

1936
01:15:12,950 --> 01:15:11,600
nolan says it's human from what i

1937
01:15:16,149 --> 01:15:12,960
understand approximately four percent of

1938
01:15:19,110 --> 01:15:16,159
dna analysis is anomalous yet

1939
01:15:22,149 --> 01:15:19,120
you can argue with nolan he's on

1940
01:15:23,110 --> 01:15:22,159
i don't know what the heck that

1941
01:15:26,229 --> 01:15:23,120
ah

1942
01:15:27,990 --> 01:15:26,239
tonight is a special fireworks night

1943
01:15:29,590 --> 01:15:28,000
and my dog is shaking i know you can

1944
01:15:31,830 --> 01:15:29,600
hear that

1945
01:15:32,950 --> 01:15:31,840
it's supposed to be lasting for like

1946
01:15:33,990 --> 01:15:32,960
10 minutes

1947
01:15:35,430 --> 01:15:34,000
the dog

1948
01:15:37,590 --> 01:15:35,440
hates fireworks and he's running away

1949
01:15:39,830 --> 01:15:37,600
now um i don't know what the celebration

1950
01:15:40,950 --> 01:15:39,840
is some anniversary nolan says it's

1951
01:15:42,390 --> 01:15:40,960
human from what i understand

1952
01:15:44,229 --> 01:15:42,400
approximately four percent of dna

1953
01:15:46,149 --> 01:15:44,239
analysis was anomalous yet he asserts

1954
01:15:48,870 --> 01:15:46,159
nothing to see here human comes in many

1955
01:15:51,189 --> 01:15:48,880
forms bone densities indicated in uh an

1956
01:15:54,149 --> 01:15:51,199
age four of sort of six years you can

1957
01:15:55,430 --> 01:15:54,159
ask him that ask him on twitter if as

1958
01:15:56,630 --> 01:15:55,440
long as you're not attacking there are

1959
01:15:57,750 --> 01:15:56,640
people that you know come at him i

1960
01:15:59,030 --> 01:15:57,760
remember was a couple of years ago

1961
01:16:00,630 --> 01:15:59,040
saying

1962
01:16:02,149 --> 01:16:00,640
you're lying you're part of the cover-up

1963
01:16:04,470 --> 01:16:02,159
he's like he's not going to respond to

1964
01:16:07,350 --> 01:16:04,480
that i responded but so you should try

1965
01:16:08,630 --> 01:16:07,360
responding to him on that

1966
01:16:10,709 --> 01:16:08,640
obviously yeah i don't know how that

1967
01:16:13,350 --> 01:16:10,719
would show up

1968
01:16:14,950 --> 01:16:13,360
you know it's not really a it's only a

1969
01:16:18,310 --> 01:16:14,960
little bit anomalous

1970
01:16:19,910 --> 01:16:18,320
would even would it show up i don't know

1971
01:16:23,030 --> 01:16:19,920
i don't have any emotional tie

1972
01:16:24,950 --> 01:16:23,040
whatsoever to

1973
01:16:27,270 --> 01:16:24,960
the ata stuff i didn't spend any time on

1974
01:16:32,870 --> 01:16:27,280
it i saw it in the greer movie

1975
01:16:35,830 --> 01:16:34,310
yeah i don't think greer gre i don't

1976
01:16:37,350 --> 01:16:35,840
think nolan reversed his position and

1977
01:16:39,990 --> 01:16:37,360
greer has paid a huge price because

1978
01:16:41,350 --> 01:16:40,000
greer has made his own bed and made so

1979
01:16:45,830 --> 01:16:41,360
many mistakes

1980
01:16:48,070 --> 01:16:45,840
so i don't even want to go there with

1981
01:16:49,350 --> 01:16:48,080
greer take away otta there's so many

1982
01:16:50,790 --> 01:16:49,360
issues i have with greer and i've

1983
01:16:52,149 --> 01:16:50,800
avoided speaking about because i'm not

1984
01:16:53,110 --> 01:16:52,159
going to go negative

1985
01:16:57,990 --> 01:16:53,120
anyway

1986
01:17:01,590 --> 01:16:59,510
you should ask him

1987
01:17:03,030 --> 01:17:01,600
um i don't think him and harris would be

1988
01:17:04,630 --> 01:17:03,040
a great debate to tell you i don't think

1989
01:17:07,590 --> 01:17:04,640
he would debate her

1990
01:17:08,950 --> 01:17:07,600
um but i do like debates i love debates

1991
01:17:13,990 --> 01:17:08,960
in fact i was hoping there would be a

1992
01:17:18,870 --> 01:17:15,350
anyway

1993
01:17:20,790 --> 01:17:18,880
sorry if i get riled up about grier but

1994
01:17:22,870 --> 01:17:20,800
guy did great work in the early days i

1995
01:17:24,070 --> 01:17:22,880
think i know a lot of people love him so

1996
01:17:25,750 --> 01:17:24,080
i don't really get involved i don't

1997
01:17:27,750 --> 01:17:25,760
really say much about him on twitter i

1998
01:17:29,910 --> 01:17:27,760
don't really say much about him ever um

1999
01:17:31,430 --> 01:17:29,920
he did great work with the disclosure

2000
01:17:32,870 --> 01:17:31,440
project and the witnesses he pulled

2001
01:17:33,990 --> 01:17:32,880
together even so even though some of

2002
01:17:38,229 --> 01:17:34,000
those witnesses i don't think were great

2003
01:17:41,590 --> 01:17:40,149
of the hundred

2004
01:17:43,590 --> 01:17:41,600
the people who claim that they had an

2005
01:17:46,229 --> 01:17:43,600
encounter especially the pilots describe

2006
01:17:48,550 --> 01:17:46,239
any perceivable decrease in neurological

2007
01:17:50,070 --> 01:17:48,560
capacity

2008
01:17:51,830 --> 01:17:50,080
of the hundred or so patients we looked

2009
01:17:53,270 --> 01:17:51,840
at about a quarter of them died from

2010
01:17:54,470 --> 01:17:53,280
their injuries that's what i was saying

2011
01:17:56,550 --> 01:17:54,480
earlier

2012
01:17:58,630 --> 01:17:56,560
the majority of these patients had

2013
01:18:00,149 --> 01:17:58,640
symptomology that's basically identical

2014
01:18:02,470 --> 01:18:00,159
to what's now called

2015
01:18:04,790 --> 01:18:02,480
here we get confusing

2016
01:18:07,189 --> 01:18:04,800
majority had what is similar to what we

2017
01:18:08,870 --> 01:18:07,199
call havana syndrome we think amongst

2018
01:18:10,950 --> 01:18:08,880
this bucket list of cases we had the

2019
01:18:12,229 --> 01:18:10,960
first havana syndrome patients

2020
01:18:13,750 --> 01:18:12,239
once this turned into a national

2021
01:18:16,310 --> 01:18:13,760
security problem with the havana

2022
01:18:18,950 --> 01:18:16,320
syndrome i was locked out of all of the

2023
01:18:22,790 --> 01:18:21,030
to the files because it's now a serious

2024
01:18:27,030 --> 01:18:22,800
potential international incident if they

2025
01:18:29,030 --> 01:18:27,040
ever figured out who's been doing it

2026
01:18:30,229 --> 01:18:29,040
that still left individuals who had seen

2027
01:18:32,470 --> 01:18:30,239
uaps

2028
01:18:35,510 --> 01:18:32,480
they didn't have havana syndrome they

2029
01:18:37,270 --> 01:18:35,520
had a smorgasbord of other symptoms

2030
01:18:39,189 --> 01:18:37,280
how does the impact of electromagnetic

2031
01:18:42,310 --> 01:18:39,199
frequencies factor into your hypotheses

2032
01:18:44,709 --> 01:18:42,320
about what exactly transpired here

2033
01:18:46,310 --> 01:18:44,719
this is important too i can't go back

2034
01:18:48,310 --> 01:18:46,320
and forth between this and twitter but

2035
01:18:49,830 --> 01:18:48,320
i'll i'll tie it in with one of the

2036
01:18:51,990 --> 01:18:49,840
patients it happened on the skinwalker

2037
01:18:53,510 --> 01:18:52,000
ranch given how deep into their brain

2038
01:18:56,070 --> 01:18:53,520
the damage went

2039
01:18:58,310 --> 01:18:56,080
we can actually estimate the amount of

2040
01:19:01,110 --> 01:18:58,320
energy required in the electromagnetic

2041
01:19:02,790 --> 01:19:01,120
wave somehow aimed at them

2042
01:19:04,070 --> 01:19:02,800
we don't think that has anything to do

2043
01:19:06,870 --> 01:19:04,080
with uaps

2044
01:19:09,430 --> 01:19:06,880
we think that that's some sort of state

2045
01:19:12,630 --> 01:19:09,440
actor and again related to event to

2046
01:19:15,189 --> 01:19:12,640
havana syndrome somehow

2047
01:19:16,709 --> 01:19:15,199
so that person who stepped up and said

2048
01:19:18,390 --> 01:19:16,719
that's me they're talking about is

2049
01:19:19,270 --> 01:19:18,400
thomas winterton

2050
01:19:22,550 --> 01:19:19,280
um

2051
01:19:24,870 --> 01:19:22,560
that's his brain damage i spoke about it

2052
01:19:26,470 --> 01:19:24,880
in season one winterton came on twitter

2053
01:19:29,189 --> 01:19:26,480
said that's me

2054
01:19:31,030 --> 01:19:29,199
uh and he doesn't

2055
01:19:33,990 --> 01:19:31,040
he he thinks

2056
01:19:37,430 --> 01:19:34,000
maybe there's a mix of uap and

2057
01:19:39,350 --> 01:19:37,440
state actors on the ranch brandon fugel

2058
01:19:41,189 --> 01:19:39,360
chimed in says he does not think from

2059
01:19:43,350 --> 01:19:41,199
what he has learned that it was a state

2060
01:19:45,590 --> 01:19:43,360
actor involved there are other people

2061
01:19:47,430 --> 01:19:45,600
that disagree with nolan and greene

2062
01:19:49,030 --> 01:19:47,440
um so i'm sure there are people that

2063
01:19:51,510 --> 01:19:49,040
agree with them so

2064
01:19:52,790 --> 01:19:51,520
that one's up in the air um

2065
01:19:54,870 --> 01:19:52,800
i know there are people that think

2066
01:19:56,950 --> 01:19:54,880
everything at skinwalker ranch is is

2067
01:19:58,229 --> 01:19:56,960
human black tech i do not think that

2068
01:20:00,229 --> 01:19:58,239
whatsoever

2069
01:20:01,990 --> 01:20:00,239
um this goes way back in that whole

2070
01:20:03,110 --> 01:20:02,000
basin that whole area so i don't think

2071
01:20:04,790 --> 01:20:03,120
it's human

2072
01:20:06,709 --> 01:20:04,800
is it possible that black tech is

2073
01:20:09,750 --> 01:20:06,719
piggybacking

2074
01:20:12,229 --> 01:20:09,760
and hiding their black tech

2075
01:20:14,550 --> 01:20:12,239
you know and using ufos as a cover yeah

2076
01:20:15,750 --> 01:20:14,560
that's possible

2077
01:20:18,070 --> 01:20:15,760
i'm not really sure how they're going to

2078
01:20:21,350 --> 01:20:18,080
prove this um

2079
01:20:26,070 --> 01:20:24,709
but it's controversial either way

2080
01:20:30,830 --> 01:20:26,080
and

2081
01:20:35,430 --> 01:20:33,970
else um

2082
01:20:37,189 --> 01:20:35,440
[Music]

2083
01:20:38,870 --> 01:20:37,199
well they already did

2084
01:20:40,709 --> 01:20:38,880
um they don't want to link advanced

2085
01:20:42,229 --> 01:20:40,719
engine with up you would open a can of

2086
01:20:44,229 --> 01:20:42,239
worms within the confines of public

2087
01:20:46,070 --> 01:20:44,239
disclosure i mean

2088
01:20:47,189 --> 01:20:46,080
i did not expect to see that in this

2089
01:20:48,870 --> 01:20:47,199
article

2090
01:20:50,629 --> 01:20:48,880
lou has talked about a connection

2091
01:20:54,790 --> 01:20:50,639
between uap

2092
01:20:59,430 --> 01:20:57,510
havana syndrome um no details so i don't

2093
01:21:01,750 --> 01:20:59,440
know if he was talking about this i

2094
01:21:03,750 --> 01:21:01,760
don't know but now that we have this on

2095
01:21:06,629 --> 01:21:03,760
record the next time lou is interviewed

2096
01:21:08,550 --> 01:21:06,639
luke could be asked about this i mean

2097
01:21:10,870 --> 01:21:08,560
somebody was and i was speculating maybe

2098
01:21:12,229 --> 01:21:10,880
uh some state actors maybe somebody from

2099
01:21:14,550 --> 01:21:12,239
russia

2100
01:21:16,149 --> 01:21:14,560
they were able to mimic uapp technology

2101
01:21:17,830 --> 01:21:16,159
and they're using it against us i don't

2102
01:21:19,590 --> 01:21:17,840
know i don't know there's a lot of

2103
01:21:20,629 --> 01:21:19,600
follow-ups that need to be asked about

2104
01:21:22,550 --> 01:21:20,639
this

2105
01:21:25,669 --> 01:21:22,560
um

2106
01:21:30,390 --> 01:21:25,679
hopefully i will get to interview

2107
01:21:35,750 --> 01:21:32,310
other than mris what technologies were

2108
01:21:37,830 --> 01:21:35,760
you using to analyze the patients

2109
01:21:39,990 --> 01:21:37,840
and as the bombs are going off outside

2110
01:21:42,310 --> 01:21:40,000
hopefully they're not too loud

2111
01:21:43,669 --> 01:21:42,320
we did a deep psychological evaluation

2112
01:21:45,189 --> 01:21:43,679
of all these people just to make sure

2113
01:21:47,030 --> 01:21:45,199
that they were stable and they were not

2114
01:21:48,470 --> 01:21:47,040
dealing with obviously dilute we're not

2115
01:21:50,470 --> 01:21:48,480
dealing with obviously delusional

2116
01:21:52,390 --> 01:21:50,480
individuals my role in the initial

2117
01:21:54,310 --> 01:21:52,400
project was analysis on blood using a

2118
01:21:56,310 --> 01:21:54,320
device called scitov which was something

2119
01:21:57,830 --> 01:21:56,320
that i had been involved in the

2120
01:21:59,430 --> 01:21:57,840
development of

2121
01:22:01,189 --> 01:21:59,440
the problem was that we couldn't really

2122
01:22:03,750 --> 01:22:01,199
conclude very much because many of the

2123
01:22:05,910 --> 01:22:03,760
cases happened years before i ended up

2124
01:22:08,070 --> 01:22:05,920
getting the blood with an acute injury

2125
01:22:09,830 --> 01:22:08,080
to be seen in some in some tell-tale

2126
01:22:12,470 --> 01:22:09,840
signature we need to collect within four

2127
01:22:14,149 --> 01:22:12,480
or five days or a couple of weeks but

2128
01:22:16,470 --> 01:22:14,159
blood from an individual a couple of

2129
01:22:17,830 --> 01:22:16,480
years out will not be useful what i told

2130
01:22:19,270 --> 01:22:17,840
the people in the government is that i

2131
01:22:22,390 --> 01:22:19,280
need access to their blood while the

2132
01:22:25,189 --> 01:22:22,400
case is still acute which is why it's so

2133
01:22:27,430 --> 01:22:25,199
important to have a ufo

2134
01:22:28,950 --> 01:22:27,440
program that has field workers that can

2135
01:22:30,790 --> 01:22:28,960
go out and fly across the country if

2136
01:22:33,030 --> 01:22:30,800
they have to hopefully we can have

2137
01:22:34,709 --> 01:22:33,040
people on both coasts

2138
01:22:35,830 --> 01:22:34,719
in the mid you know all over the all

2139
01:22:37,030 --> 01:22:35,840
over the country so they don't have to

2140
01:22:39,350 --> 01:22:37,040
fly coast to coast you know what i'm

2141
01:22:40,870 --> 01:22:39,360
talking about we have various groups so

2142
01:22:43,990 --> 01:22:40,880
they only have to fly one to two hours

2143
01:22:45,510 --> 01:22:44,000
max to get to a case so if somebody was

2144
01:22:47,350 --> 01:22:45,520
injured they could do the blood work

2145
01:22:48,629 --> 01:22:47,360
right away or they can somehow get the

2146
01:22:50,629 --> 01:22:48,639
blood work shipped to them right away if

2147
01:22:52,470 --> 01:22:50,639
they just go to a local doctor

2148
01:22:53,830 --> 01:22:52,480
so that's why it's important the whole

2149
01:22:54,870 --> 01:22:53,840
asap thing

2150
01:22:56,950 --> 01:22:54,880
um

2151
01:22:59,430 --> 01:22:56,960
but yeah we start mixing in havana

2152
01:23:00,709 --> 01:22:59,440
syndrome then it's gonna be so messy

2153
01:23:02,229 --> 01:23:00,719
trying to figure out what the hell we're

2154
01:23:04,629 --> 01:23:02,239
dealing with

2155
01:23:09,030 --> 01:23:06,709
is there anything man-made that might

2156
01:23:10,550 --> 01:23:09,040
have this impact on the brain and nolan

2157
01:23:12,149 --> 01:23:10,560
says the only thing i could think i can

2158
01:23:13,910 --> 01:23:12,159
imagine is you're standing next to an

2159
01:23:15,270 --> 01:23:13,920
electric transformer that's emitting so

2160
01:23:16,709 --> 01:23:15,280
much energy that you're basically

2161
01:23:18,669 --> 01:23:16,719
getting burned

2162
01:23:23,270 --> 01:23:18,679
inside your

2163
01:23:25,430 --> 01:23:23,280
body of ionizing radiation

2164
01:23:27,430 --> 01:23:25,440
so they're judging the technology used

2165
01:23:29,110 --> 01:23:27,440
to create that injury by how deep it

2166
01:23:30,870 --> 01:23:29,120
went

2167
01:23:32,709 --> 01:23:30,880
are you simply attempting to document

2168
01:23:35,430 --> 01:23:32,719
what you see or are you looking for a

2169
01:23:37,430 --> 01:23:35,440
cause as well

2170
01:23:39,110 --> 01:23:37,440
yes it's kind of the natural way that

2171
01:23:41,270 --> 01:23:39,120
science is done first you catalog then

2172
01:23:43,350 --> 01:23:41,280
you organize and you say well

2173
01:23:46,149 --> 01:23:43,360
this is similar to what this and this

2174
01:23:47,669 --> 01:23:46,159
other thing is similar but to that

2175
01:23:48,870 --> 01:23:47,679
but why is this other thing different

2176
01:23:51,189 --> 01:23:48,880
and then if you have enough data you

2177
01:23:53,430 --> 01:23:51,199
start to look for causes i do that every

2178
01:23:55,350 --> 01:23:53,440
day with our cancer work we always try

2179
01:23:57,669 --> 01:23:55,360
to come up with hypotheses

2180
01:23:59,910 --> 01:23:57,679
on why something is hypotheses are

2181
01:24:01,910 --> 01:23:59,920
innumerable they are proof of nothing so

2182
01:24:04,070 --> 01:24:01,920
i am careful not to come to a premature

2183
01:24:07,590 --> 01:24:04,080
conclusion because you only need one

2184
01:24:09,110 --> 01:24:07,600
disproof to undermine a hypothesis

2185
01:24:10,790 --> 01:24:09,120
that's what i'm trying to stay away from

2186
01:24:13,350 --> 01:24:10,800
i have my private thoughts about what i

2187
01:24:15,669 --> 01:24:13,360
think is going on and some of them i'm

2188
01:24:18,310 --> 01:24:15,679
very very sure about

2189
01:24:21,350 --> 01:24:18,320
i'm open to being wrong except most of

2190
01:24:22,629 --> 01:24:21,360
the time i know i'm probably right i

2191
01:24:24,950 --> 01:24:22,639
don't know what he's probably right

2192
01:24:26,550 --> 01:24:24,960
about i would love to know specifically

2193
01:24:27,750 --> 01:24:26,560
what he's talking about

2194
01:24:29,030 --> 01:24:27,760
like what are we dealing with the

2195
01:24:30,870 --> 01:24:29,040
phenomena what are we dealing with

2196
01:24:32,870 --> 01:24:30,880
percentage-wise black tech versus the

2197
01:24:35,270 --> 01:24:32,880
phenomena

2198
01:24:37,910 --> 01:24:35,280
you also analyze you know so now he's

2199
01:24:39,669 --> 01:24:37,920
talking about the uap fragments

2200
01:24:41,590 --> 01:24:39,679
and he says you've probably heard of

2201
01:24:47,110 --> 01:24:41,600
jacques ballet kit green eric davis and

2202
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:52,310
that is the grand finale of fireworks

2203
01:24:56,149 --> 01:24:54,390
all and as the dog is shivering

2204
01:24:58,470 --> 01:24:56,159
somewhere

2205
01:24:59,510 --> 01:24:58,480
all roads lead to those guys that's why

2206
01:25:01,350 --> 01:24:59,520
it's like

2207
01:25:02,870 --> 01:25:01,360
and i said this before it's the reason

2208
01:25:04,149 --> 01:25:02,880
you keep hearing their names come up is

2209
01:25:05,669 --> 01:25:04,159
because it's such a small pool of

2210
01:25:07,110 --> 01:25:05,679
scientists who are willing to openly

2211
01:25:09,750 --> 01:25:07,120
talk about this stuff yeah there are

2212
01:25:11,990 --> 01:25:09,760
people who work behind the scenes but

2213
01:25:14,870 --> 01:25:12,000
um we don't know their names so the

2214
01:25:17,590 --> 01:25:14,880
people who the people who do have

2215
01:25:19,510 --> 01:25:17,600
the people who do have the guts to come

2216
01:25:21,189 --> 01:25:19,520
out and speak about this

2217
01:25:22,790 --> 01:25:21,199
those are the the names you see over and

2218
01:25:25,350 --> 01:25:22,800
over and over again it's not like it's

2219
01:25:26,790 --> 01:25:25,360
people like it's some conspiracy these

2220
01:25:28,229 --> 01:25:26,800
this small group is it's a big

2221
01:25:31,110 --> 01:25:28,239
conspiracy and they're trying to trick

2222
01:25:32,629 --> 01:25:31,120
us about uap and ufos and

2223
01:25:34,709 --> 01:25:32,639
gary says all roads lead to them when it

2224
01:25:35,990 --> 01:25:34,719
comes to uap i basically became friends

2225
01:25:37,910 --> 01:25:36,000
with that whole group they call it the

2226
01:25:39,830 --> 01:25:37,920
invisible college and i'm sure there are

2227
01:25:41,510 --> 01:25:39,840
more people we don't know about when

2228
01:25:43,149 --> 01:25:41,520
they found out some of the instruments

2229
01:25:45,270 --> 01:25:43,159
that i had developed using mass

2230
01:25:47,110 --> 01:25:45,280
spectrometry they asked if i could

2231
01:25:48,950 --> 01:25:47,120
analyze uap material and tell them

2232
01:25:50,709 --> 01:25:48,960
something about it that led to the

2233
01:25:52,470 --> 01:25:50,719
development of a roadmap of how to

2234
01:25:55,350 --> 01:25:52,480
analyze these things and that's what the

2235
01:25:57,590 --> 01:25:55,360
paper is about how to analyze going

2236
01:26:00,390 --> 01:25:57,600
forward

2237
01:26:03,270 --> 01:26:02,229
un

2238
01:26:05,030 --> 01:26:03,280
i'm trying to think of the word it

2239
01:26:07,910 --> 01:26:05,040
wasn't a very exciting sample they

2240
01:26:09,990 --> 01:26:07,920
tested for the used for the paper um you

2241
01:26:11,110 --> 01:26:10,000
know it had some parts that were like oh

2242
01:26:13,189 --> 01:26:11,120
it's a little different here and there

2243
01:26:14,790 --> 01:26:13,199
but nothing some of the other samples

2244
01:26:15,910 --> 01:26:14,800
are more promising and so that was the

2245
01:26:19,510 --> 01:26:15,920
first paper and i think they went

2246
01:26:23,030 --> 01:26:21,110
get people reading that and that's an

2247
01:26:25,270 --> 01:26:23,040
old picture of some of the invisible

2248
01:26:27,430 --> 01:26:25,280
college folks

2249
01:26:29,830 --> 01:26:27,440
douglas price williams don't know him

2250
01:26:31,990 --> 01:26:29,840
david saunders i don't know him leo

2251
01:26:33,189 --> 01:26:32,000
sprinkle um i do know sprinkle i know

2252
01:26:35,510 --> 01:26:33,199
that name

2253
01:26:37,510 --> 01:26:35,520
dick henry don't know him jacques valet

2254
01:26:41,189 --> 01:26:37,520
j helen heineck

2255
01:26:42,790 --> 01:26:41,199
claude poor and fred beckmann

2256
01:26:44,470 --> 01:26:42,800
that's before my time a lot of these

2257
01:26:46,229 --> 01:26:44,480
people

2258
01:26:48,149 --> 01:26:46,239
some of the objects are non-descript

2259
01:26:49,590 --> 01:26:48,159
talking about metal

2260
01:26:51,430 --> 01:26:49,600
both of them there's nothing unusual

2261
01:26:53,830 --> 01:26:51,440
about them

2262
01:26:55,830 --> 01:26:53,840
except everywhere you look at the metal

2263
01:26:57,830 --> 01:26:55,840
the composition is different different

2264
01:27:00,550 --> 01:26:57,840
this is probably my favorite stuff

2265
01:27:03,189 --> 01:27:00,560
what he says here it's odd because it's

2266
01:27:05,110 --> 01:27:03,199
what we call inhomogeneous

2267
01:27:06,550 --> 01:27:05,120
so basically

2268
01:27:08,950 --> 01:27:06,560
it's not

2269
01:27:11,189 --> 01:27:08,960
uniform throughout

2270
01:27:13,110 --> 01:27:11,199
it's a fancy way of saying incompletely

2271
01:27:17,750 --> 01:27:13,120
mixed the common thing about all the

2272
01:27:21,830 --> 01:27:19,830
and there's about a dozen is that almost

2273
01:27:26,229 --> 01:27:21,840
none of them are uniform

2274
01:27:28,550 --> 01:27:26,239
they're all these hodgepodge mixtures

2275
01:27:30,709 --> 01:27:28,560
each individual case will be composed of

2276
01:27:35,110 --> 01:27:30,719
a similar set of elements

2277
01:27:37,030 --> 01:27:35,120
but they will be in homogeneous

2278
01:27:38,550 --> 01:27:37,040
and those are i think those are the uber

2279
01:27:39,669 --> 01:27:38,560
tuba

2280
01:27:40,870 --> 01:27:39,679
brazil

2281
01:27:43,510 --> 01:27:40,880
samples

2282
01:27:46,870 --> 01:27:44,830
very

2283
01:27:49,750 --> 01:27:46,880
tiny one of the materials from the

2284
01:27:52,550 --> 01:27:49,760
so-called ubertuba event

2285
01:27:54,629 --> 01:27:52,560
has extraordinarily altered isotope

2286
01:27:56,310 --> 01:27:54,639
ratios of magnesium

2287
01:27:58,629 --> 01:27:56,320
it was interesting because another piece

2288
01:28:01,030 --> 01:27:58,639
from the same event was analyzed in the

2289
01:28:02,870 --> 01:28:01,040
same instrument at the same time

2290
01:28:05,030 --> 01:28:02,880
this is an extraordinary sensitive

2291
01:28:08,149 --> 01:28:05,040
instrument called a nano sims

2292
01:28:10,870 --> 01:28:08,159
secondary ion mass spectrometer

2293
01:28:13,110 --> 01:28:10,880
it had perfectly correct isotope ratios

2294
01:28:15,430 --> 01:28:13,120
for what you would expect for magnesium

2295
01:28:18,149 --> 01:28:15,440
found anywhere on earth

2296
01:28:20,870 --> 01:28:18,159
meanwhile the other one was just way off

2297
01:28:22,870 --> 01:28:20,880
like 30 percent off the ratios the

2298
01:28:25,430 --> 01:28:22,880
problem is there's no good reason humans

2299
01:28:28,629 --> 01:28:25,440
have for altering the isotope ratios of

2300
01:28:30,470 --> 01:28:28,639
a simple metal like magnesium there's no

2301
01:28:33,110 --> 01:28:30,480
different properties to the different

2302
01:28:34,950 --> 01:28:33,120
isotopes that anybody at least in any of

2303
01:28:36,709 --> 01:28:34,960
the literature that is public of the

2304
01:28:39,030 --> 01:28:36,719
hundreds of thousands of papers

2305
01:28:41,669 --> 01:28:39,040
published that says this is why you

2306
01:28:43,750 --> 01:28:41,679
would do that now you can do it

2307
01:28:45,830 --> 01:28:43,760
it's a little expensive to do but you'd

2308
01:28:47,669 --> 01:28:45,840
have no reason for doing it

2309
01:28:50,950 --> 01:28:47,679
i mean let's think about what people use

2310
01:28:53,189 --> 01:28:50,960
isotopes for today most of the time

2311
01:28:56,709 --> 01:28:53,199
humans use isotopes to blow stuff up

2312
01:28:59,350 --> 01:28:56,719
uranium or plutonium or some poison or

2313
01:29:01,510 --> 01:28:59,360
poison someone or used as a tracer in

2314
01:29:04,149 --> 01:29:01,520
order to kill cancer but those are very

2315
01:29:06,629 --> 01:29:04,159
very specific cases we are almost always

2316
01:29:08,950 --> 01:29:06,639
always using radioactive isotopes we

2317
01:29:11,350 --> 01:29:08,960
don't ever change the isotope ratios or

2318
01:29:12,470 --> 01:29:11,360
stable isotopes except perhaps as a

2319
01:29:14,390 --> 01:29:12,480
tracer

2320
01:29:16,550 --> 01:29:14,400
what that means is that if you find a

2321
01:29:19,270 --> 01:29:16,560
metal where the isotope ratios are

2322
01:29:20,870 --> 01:29:19,280
changed far beyond which is normally

2323
01:29:23,350 --> 01:29:20,880
found in nature

2324
01:29:25,590 --> 01:29:23,360
then that material material has likely

2325
01:29:27,750 --> 01:29:25,600
been engineered the material is

2326
01:29:29,110 --> 01:29:27,760
downstream of a process that caused them

2327
01:29:31,990 --> 01:29:29,120
to be altered

2328
01:29:33,030 --> 01:29:32,000
someone did it the questions are

2329
01:29:34,709 --> 01:29:33,040
who

2330
01:29:38,709 --> 01:29:34,719
and why

2331
01:29:41,189 --> 01:29:38,719
i believe this is the linda molten howe

2332
01:29:44,550 --> 01:29:41,199
sample if i'm correct

2333
01:29:47,189 --> 01:29:44,560
no it's another ubertube example

2334
01:29:48,709 --> 01:29:47,199
that's another ubertubis sample

2335
01:29:50,550 --> 01:29:48,719
might be the same one at a different

2336
01:29:53,270 --> 01:29:50,560
angle so now let's look at what these

2337
01:29:55,590 --> 01:29:53,280
materials are claimed to be

2338
01:29:57,750 --> 01:29:55,600
in almost every case these are the

2339
01:29:59,189 --> 01:29:57,760
leftovers of some sort of process that

2340
01:30:01,669 --> 01:29:59,199
these objects

2341
01:30:03,830 --> 01:30:01,679
spit out

2342
01:30:06,629 --> 01:30:03,840
so you go look at the cases where molten

2343
01:30:09,590 --> 01:30:06,639
metal falls from these objects

2344
01:30:11,590 --> 01:30:09,600
why would 30 pounds of a molten metal

2345
01:30:14,149 --> 01:30:11,600
fall from a flying object yeah that's

2346
01:30:16,950 --> 01:30:14,159
how heavy some of this stuff is

2347
01:30:19,189 --> 01:30:16,960
the case that he

2348
01:30:21,430 --> 01:30:19,199
put in the paper it was like molten

2349
01:30:23,590 --> 01:30:21,440
metal and it was flowing down the road i

2350
01:30:25,910 --> 01:30:23,600
didn't see any great pictures of that

2351
01:30:27,189 --> 01:30:25,920
there was a link but it didn't work

2352
01:30:28,629 --> 01:30:27,199
in the paper

2353
01:30:30,390 --> 01:30:28,639
what are the circumstances in some of

2354
01:30:32,830 --> 01:30:30,400
these cases for instance in some cases

2355
01:30:35,590 --> 01:30:32,840
the witness witnesses state that the

2356
01:30:36,950 --> 01:30:35,600
observed objects appeared unstable so

2357
01:30:39,830 --> 01:30:36,960
the ufo is

2358
01:30:41,990 --> 01:30:39,840
wobbling oh my god it's about to crash

2359
01:30:44,550 --> 01:30:42,000
and then it spits out a bunch of stuff

2360
01:30:46,870 --> 01:30:44,560
in the video interview he's like

2361
01:30:49,430 --> 01:30:46,880
so it spits out some stuff

2362
01:30:52,470 --> 01:30:49,440
and now all of a sudden the ufo is

2363
01:30:54,870 --> 01:30:52,480
stable again and then it moves off

2364
01:30:56,470 --> 01:30:54,880
so it appears like it fixed itself

2365
01:30:59,110 --> 01:30:56,480
one hypothesis would be that the

2366
01:31:01,350 --> 01:30:59,120
material it offloads is part of the

2367
01:31:03,669 --> 01:31:01,360
mechanism the object uses for moving

2368
01:31:06,390 --> 01:31:03,679
around so related to the propulsion

2369
01:31:08,629 --> 01:31:06,400
system and when things get out of whack

2370
01:31:10,709 --> 01:31:08,639
the object has to offload it which is

2371
01:31:12,550 --> 01:31:10,719
really interesting if that's true

2372
01:31:13,830 --> 01:31:12,560
it just drops this stuff to the ground

2373
01:31:16,310 --> 01:31:13,840
and kind of like

2374
01:31:18,390 --> 01:31:16,320
the exhaust sorry sorry if that lands on

2375
01:31:20,070 --> 01:31:18,400
your head

2376
01:31:21,990 --> 01:31:20,080
that begs the question again assuming

2377
01:31:24,470 --> 01:31:22,000
that things are real at all

2378
01:31:26,390 --> 01:31:24,480
what are they using using it for

2379
01:31:29,030 --> 01:31:26,400
if there's altered isotope ratios are

2380
01:31:30,790 --> 01:31:29,040
they using the altered isotope ratios

2381
01:31:32,629 --> 01:31:30,800
are the altered ratios the result of the

2382
01:31:34,070 --> 01:31:32,639
propulsion mechanism again pure

2383
01:31:35,910 --> 01:31:34,080
speculation

2384
01:31:37,590 --> 01:31:35,920
when the ratios get that far out of

2385
01:31:39,990 --> 01:31:37,600
whack do they have to offload because

2386
01:31:41,510 --> 01:31:40,000
it's no longer useful in propulsion

2387
01:31:43,590 --> 01:31:41,520
smarter people than me will come up with

2388
01:31:44,390 --> 01:31:43,600
better reasons but this is the fun of

2389
01:31:50,229 --> 01:31:44,400
the science

2390
01:31:58,550 --> 01:31:54,310
any other questions you can find in

2391
01:32:02,149 --> 01:32:00,229
it seems like it's i don't know if it's

2392
01:32:04,550 --> 01:32:02,159
metal repair but

2393
01:32:06,790 --> 01:32:04,560
if that's what's going on it's like

2394
01:32:08,550 --> 01:32:06,800
maybe that yeah maybe the mix of

2395
01:32:12,870 --> 01:32:08,560
whatever it's using

2396
01:32:15,270 --> 01:32:12,880
uh the chemicals needs to be uh

2397
01:32:16,709 --> 01:32:15,280
re you know re

2398
01:32:19,350 --> 01:32:16,719
formed and they need to get rid of the

2399
01:32:21,030 --> 01:32:19,360
excess garbage i don't know

2400
01:32:22,790 --> 01:32:21,040
that doesn't that is influencing the

2401
01:32:24,229 --> 01:32:22,800
propulsion system

2402
01:32:25,990 --> 01:32:24,239
it's kind of cool if that's what's going

2403
01:32:31,270 --> 01:32:26,000
on

2404
01:32:35,830 --> 01:32:33,270
leftovers from fazing fields being

2405
01:32:37,910 --> 01:32:35,840
discharged

2406
01:32:43,030 --> 01:32:37,920
hopefully one day we find out i'm not

2407
01:32:47,750 --> 01:32:44,709
how many objects have you checked out

2408
01:32:49,750 --> 01:32:47,760
that are not playing by our rules

2409
01:32:51,990 --> 01:32:49,760
talking about the materials so of the 10

2410
01:32:53,750 --> 01:32:52,000
or 12 i've looked at two

2411
01:32:55,110 --> 01:32:53,760
seem to be not playing by our rules that

2412
01:32:56,149 --> 01:32:55,120
doesn't mean that they're levitating on

2413
01:32:57,669 --> 01:32:56,159
my desk

2414
01:33:01,110 --> 01:32:57,679
just means that they have altered

2415
01:33:04,390 --> 01:33:03,030
now we get into stuff that's i don't

2416
01:33:05,270 --> 01:33:04,400
understand half of what they're talking

2417
01:33:06,550 --> 01:33:05,280
about

2418
01:33:09,189 --> 01:33:06,560
have you ever

2419
01:33:11,189 --> 01:33:09,199
used a super quantum interference device

2420
01:33:12,950 --> 01:33:11,199
we will likely be using squids and a new

2421
01:33:15,430 --> 01:33:12,960
device that can determine the atomic

2422
01:33:17,030 --> 01:33:15,440
structure of anything at a sub angstrom

2423
01:33:19,669 --> 01:33:17,040
resolution

2424
01:33:21,590 --> 01:33:19,679
which tells me going forward

2425
01:33:23,110 --> 01:33:21,600
the technology is amazing

2426
01:33:24,550 --> 01:33:23,120
so we'll get hopefully i don't know if

2427
01:33:25,510 --> 01:33:24,560
we'll get an answer but we'll get more

2428
01:33:26,950 --> 01:33:25,520
detail

2429
01:33:29,110 --> 01:33:26,960
there's no device in the world that can

2430
01:33:30,870 --> 01:33:29,120
do that today especially of an amorphous

2431
01:33:32,870 --> 01:33:30,880
object we can do crystals we can do

2432
01:33:35,669 --> 01:33:32,880
little bits of biology with what's

2433
01:33:37,350 --> 01:33:35,679
called cryoam but this device supersedes

2434
01:33:39,830 --> 01:33:37,360
all of them so i'm talking with the

2435
01:33:42,470 --> 01:33:39,840
government about building that

2436
01:33:43,750 --> 01:33:42,480
i need funding damn it

2437
01:33:44,950 --> 01:33:43,760
which we still don't know what funding

2438
01:33:47,030 --> 01:33:44,960
is going to come from the driller brand

2439
01:33:48,310 --> 01:33:47,040
amendment uh the ufo office when it gets

2440
01:33:49,750 --> 01:33:48,320
signed we don't know how much funding

2441
01:33:51,189 --> 01:33:49,760
it's going to get

2442
01:33:52,709 --> 01:33:51,199
are the devices and methods that you

2443
01:33:55,430 --> 01:33:52,719
have available to you in terms of being

2444
01:33:56,870 --> 01:33:55,440
able to analyze this material sufficient

2445
01:33:58,470 --> 01:33:56,880
in a perfect world what would you want

2446
01:34:00,229 --> 01:33:58,480
to see

2447
01:34:02,070 --> 01:34:00,239
depending on how deep you want to go

2448
01:34:03,830 --> 01:34:02,080
each analysis costs anywhere from ten

2449
01:34:05,510 --> 01:34:03,840
thousand twenty thousand dollars that

2450
01:34:07,990 --> 01:34:05,520
tells you what the atoms are what the

2451
01:34:09,510 --> 01:34:08,000
isotope ratios are crystalline quality a

2452
01:34:11,510 --> 01:34:09,520
lot of things that are sort of standard

2453
01:34:13,510 --> 01:34:11,520
materials analysis the point of doing

2454
01:34:15,830 --> 01:34:13,520
this though is to figure out what it is

2455
01:34:18,870 --> 01:34:15,840
used for to do that eventually you need

2456
01:34:20,550 --> 01:34:18,880
to get down to the atomic level

2457
01:34:22,470 --> 01:34:20,560
let's say we didn't have transistors

2458
01:34:25,110 --> 01:34:22,480
today and one of these objects dropped a

2459
01:34:26,709 --> 01:34:25,120
big chunk of germanium doped with other

2460
01:34:29,110 --> 01:34:26,719
elements or you know these little

2461
01:34:31,430 --> 01:34:29,120
transistors we would not have a clue as

2462
01:34:33,669 --> 01:34:31,440
to the function and we would ask why

2463
01:34:36,070 --> 01:34:33,679
would anyone put a raise of germanium

2464
01:34:38,550 --> 01:34:36,080
with these strange impurities in them

2465
01:34:40,550 --> 01:34:38,560
what is this thing

2466
01:34:41,830 --> 01:34:40,560
but we do have transistors and we do

2467
01:34:43,189 --> 01:34:41,840
understand what he's saying in a world

2468
01:34:44,950 --> 01:34:43,199
if we didn't have transistors we

2469
01:34:46,470 --> 01:34:44,960
wouldn't understand just like whatever

2470
01:34:48,390 --> 01:34:46,480
this thing is we don't understand how

2471
01:34:50,149 --> 01:34:48,400
it's built so we don't understand what

2472
01:34:52,310 --> 01:34:50,159
the hell we're seeing

2473
01:34:53,750 --> 01:34:52,320
and i talked about on twitter that

2474
01:34:56,390 --> 01:34:53,760
and this is really

2475
01:34:58,390 --> 01:34:56,400
stretching it possibly that this thing

2476
01:34:59,910 --> 01:34:58,400
is putting off

2477
01:35:02,070 --> 01:34:59,920
it's pretending to be something and

2478
01:35:04,470 --> 01:35:02,080
maybe part of the pretending to make us

2479
01:35:05,510 --> 01:35:04,480
think their aliens is you know showing

2480
01:35:07,270 --> 01:35:05,520
itself

2481
01:35:09,030 --> 01:35:07,280
you know wobbling and then spitting out

2482
01:35:10,390 --> 01:35:09,040
some material just to distract us i

2483
01:35:11,750 --> 01:35:10,400
don't know why

2484
01:35:12,709 --> 01:35:11,760
if that's part of it there are people

2485
01:35:15,350 --> 01:35:12,719
who think

2486
01:35:17,669 --> 01:35:15,360
i think it's rare bouchet thinks that

2487
01:35:18,950 --> 01:35:17,679
ufos hang around nuclear

2488
01:35:20,229 --> 01:35:18,960
missiles

2489
01:35:22,550 --> 01:35:20,239
because they want to make us think

2490
01:35:24,790 --> 01:35:22,560
they're extraterrestrials but in reality

2491
01:35:26,550 --> 01:35:24,800
they're demons i don't think he says

2492
01:35:27,750 --> 01:35:26,560
demons but he that's what he's getting

2493
01:35:30,470 --> 01:35:27,760
at

2494
01:35:34,629 --> 01:35:32,709
deceptive um just making themselves

2495
01:35:36,950 --> 01:35:34,639
appear to be something that they're not

2496
01:35:38,550 --> 01:35:36,960
for whatever reason

2497
01:35:40,550 --> 01:35:38,560
anybody who's engineering materials

2498
01:35:42,470 --> 01:35:40,560
these days for doing any kind of

2499
01:35:43,430 --> 01:35:42,480
advanced electronics and photonic

2500
01:35:44,950 --> 01:35:43,440
understands

2501
01:35:47,270 --> 01:35:44,960
that where the atoms are in the

2502
01:35:48,870 --> 01:35:47,280
structure matters there's a thing that's

2503
01:35:52,950 --> 01:35:48,880
often used in biology called the

2504
01:35:56,629 --> 01:35:54,950
this is a little boring i'm going to

2505
01:35:58,629 --> 01:35:56,639
link to this people want to read all of

2506
01:35:59,990 --> 01:35:58,639
it

2507
01:36:07,669 --> 01:36:00,000
talking about the function of something

2508
01:36:10,070 --> 01:36:08,790
so sometimes you get to see the

2509
01:36:11,830 --> 01:36:10,080
structure and you understand the

2510
01:36:13,750 --> 01:36:11,840
function if i look at a heart and watch

2511
01:36:15,270 --> 01:36:13,760
it a little bit how it moves i can

2512
01:36:17,270 --> 01:36:15,280
understand its function i can look at

2513
01:36:19,030 --> 01:36:17,280
the tubes in your veins and say the

2514
01:36:20,470 --> 01:36:19,040
function is to carry blood

2515
01:36:22,149 --> 01:36:20,480
as we're looking at the structure of

2516
01:36:24,070 --> 01:36:22,159
cells when we see the structure of a

2517
01:36:25,590 --> 01:36:24,080
protein we can get a sense of how it's

2518
01:36:26,470 --> 01:36:25,600
operating so that's really what it's

2519
01:36:28,390 --> 01:36:26,480
about

2520
01:36:30,310 --> 01:36:28,400
the next frontier of materials study is

2521
01:36:32,070 --> 01:36:30,320
atomic if you want to understand

2522
01:36:34,790 --> 01:36:32,080
something very advanced you better have

2523
01:36:39,189 --> 01:36:34,800
something like this in your back pocket

2524
01:36:40,070 --> 01:36:39,199
so that is that article

2525
01:36:42,950 --> 01:36:40,080
and

2526
01:36:44,709 --> 01:36:42,960
i will stop sharing in a second

2527
01:36:47,590 --> 01:36:44,719
if you guys have any questions let me

2528
01:36:53,430 --> 01:36:49,669
i need to go i have the transcript i

2529
01:36:58,790 --> 01:36:53,440
just gotta find it on my laptop

2530
01:37:02,470 --> 01:37:00,870
here we go

2531
01:37:04,229 --> 01:37:02,480
flaking from contaminants and phasing

2532
01:37:05,830 --> 01:37:04,239
field containment inside the field

2533
01:37:07,109 --> 01:37:05,840
temperatures are very high when the

2534
01:37:08,550 --> 01:37:07,119
phasing field is discharged the

2535
01:37:14,950 --> 01:37:08,560
contaminants and high potentials are

2536
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:20,229
fuel printing as needs

2537
01:37:23,750 --> 01:37:21,750
leading to some of the radiation effects

2538
01:37:24,470 --> 01:37:23,760
seen in victims who walk up to the eaps

2539
01:37:25,910 --> 01:37:24,480
yeah

2540
01:37:27,910 --> 01:37:25,920
i think it was uh

2541
01:37:30,070 --> 01:37:27,920
keel believes it's not the technology

2542
01:37:31,350 --> 01:37:30,080
it's more of what the object is made of

2543
01:37:33,510 --> 01:37:31,360
and he thinks it's all made of

2544
01:37:35,270 --> 01:37:33,520
electromagnetic in its

2545
01:37:36,790 --> 01:37:35,280
formed out of nothing

2546
01:37:38,310 --> 01:37:36,800
um

2547
01:37:40,070 --> 01:37:38,320
i don't know if he's right about that

2548
01:37:41,990 --> 01:37:40,080
basically whatever this intelligence is

2549
01:37:43,590 --> 01:37:42,000
can create whatever it wants and in that

2550
01:37:46,390 --> 01:37:43,600
process

2551
01:37:48,390 --> 01:37:46,400
in certain times i think he says

2552
01:37:50,229 --> 01:37:48,400
when it's landing it's more dangerous i

2553
01:37:52,709 --> 01:37:50,239
i have to i i've tweeted that whole

2554
01:37:55,510 --> 01:37:52,719
section out i don't remember exactly

2555
01:38:00,390 --> 01:37:58,149
have a good night picks

2556
01:38:03,590 --> 01:38:00,400
everybody have a good week

2557
01:38:04,950 --> 01:38:03,600
i'm only halfway done

2558
01:38:08,149 --> 01:38:04,960
um

2559
01:38:11,750 --> 01:38:08,159
i understand if people are getting bored

2560
01:38:13,270 --> 01:38:11,760
and i will stop sharing that

2561
01:38:14,950 --> 01:38:13,280
i'm going to take a two minute break i

2562
01:41:41,350 --> 01:38:14,960
will be right back

2563
01:41:55,910 --> 01:41:43,750
so this is

2564
01:41:58,629 --> 01:41:57,590
and that's a quote from him that goes on

2565
01:42:05,189 --> 01:41:58,639
later on

2566
01:42:09,109 --> 01:42:07,669
supposedly to be leading thinkers debase

2567
01:42:11,189 --> 01:42:09,119
people who are interested in thinking

2568
01:42:13,830 --> 01:42:11,199
about new ideas is to me that's

2569
01:42:15,510 --> 01:42:13,840
heretical basically yeah you come up

2570
01:42:17,109 --> 01:42:15,520
with some idea that's

2571
01:42:20,629 --> 01:42:17,119
thinking outside the box and people

2572
01:42:24,229 --> 01:42:22,550
and like when people make fun of eric

2573
01:42:26,390 --> 01:42:24,239
davis's

2574
01:42:28,550 --> 01:42:26,400
paper on teleportation for the air for

2575
01:42:30,070 --> 01:42:28,560
for the um

2576
01:42:31,830 --> 01:42:30,080
for the air force right

2577
01:42:33,750 --> 01:42:31,840
um

2578
01:42:35,430 --> 01:42:33,760
and the paper he wrote on wormholes and

2579
01:42:36,790 --> 01:42:35,440
it's like

2580
01:42:38,870 --> 01:42:36,800
i think it was the

2581
01:42:40,470 --> 01:42:38,880
the uh the drive they wrote an article

2582
01:42:42,870 --> 01:42:40,480
back then when the dirt came out saying

2583
01:42:45,270 --> 01:42:42,880
eric davis this is junk science this

2584
01:42:47,189 --> 01:42:45,280
this dirt is junk science i'm like give

2585
01:42:47,990 --> 01:42:47,199
me a break how the hell do you know

2586
01:42:49,750 --> 01:42:48,000
because they're brilliant

2587
01:42:50,629 --> 01:42:49,760
astrophysicists thinking outside of the

2588
01:42:53,750 --> 01:42:50,639
box

2589
01:42:56,790 --> 01:42:53,760
we need more people like that

2590
01:42:59,030 --> 01:42:56,800
this was his interview

2591
01:43:01,109 --> 01:42:59,040
that came out which was in the same

2592
01:43:08,070 --> 01:43:01,119
article

2593
01:43:10,629 --> 01:43:08,830
all

2594
01:43:12,790 --> 01:43:10,639
right

2595
01:43:15,030 --> 01:43:12,800
david hayes made the interview and i

2596
01:43:18,709 --> 01:43:15,040
juiced it up a little bit added a lot of

2597
01:43:25,430 --> 01:43:21,109
it's nolan

2598
01:43:28,870 --> 01:43:25,440
nolan lab with the breaking bad letters

2599
01:43:36,390 --> 01:43:32,070
talking about his original interest

2600
01:43:41,990 --> 01:43:38,950
he talked about he read science fiction

2601
01:43:45,350 --> 01:43:42,000
ian banks arkansas clarke who wrote 2001

2602
01:43:48,870 --> 01:43:46,870
and then

2603
01:43:50,550 --> 01:43:48,880
i do have them i have some stuff in this

2604
01:43:52,470 --> 01:43:50,560
transcript that's different than the

2605
01:43:57,510 --> 01:43:52,480
actual interview i added some stuff

2606
01:44:03,030 --> 01:44:00,629
um the host jesse says right that's his

2607
01:44:07,830 --> 01:44:05,270
sure before i go along jesse michael so

2608
01:44:09,350 --> 01:44:07,840
jesse

2609
01:44:11,109 --> 01:44:09,360
um

2610
01:44:12,390 --> 01:44:11,119
talking about the monolith and uh jesse

2611
01:44:13,910 --> 01:44:12,400
says kind of like the sort of thing

2612
01:44:15,109 --> 01:44:13,920
place on earth that inspires tech

2613
01:44:17,350 --> 01:44:15,119
innovation

2614
01:44:19,109 --> 01:44:17,360
like john mack would talk about a lot of

2615
01:44:21,030 --> 01:44:19,119
these alien sightings being slightly

2616
01:44:21,830 --> 01:44:21,040
more advanced but barely comprehensible

2617
01:44:25,030 --> 01:44:21,840
tech

2618
01:44:26,310 --> 01:44:25,040
innovation

2619
01:44:31,350 --> 01:44:26,320
nolan's like yeah it's like laying

2620
01:44:36,149 --> 01:44:33,430
he talks about the areas of microbiology

2621
01:44:39,750 --> 01:44:36,159
he's interested in

2622
01:44:43,030 --> 01:44:41,430
the national cancer institute is one of

2623
01:44:44,950 --> 01:44:43,040
the biggest institutes in the country

2624
01:44:46,709 --> 01:44:44,960
for doling out money so you follow the

2625
01:44:48,149 --> 01:44:46,719
money and if there's no money for doing

2626
01:44:49,910 --> 01:44:48,159
this research there's no positive

2627
01:44:51,590 --> 01:44:49,920
feedback for doing it and if anything

2628
01:44:53,350 --> 01:44:51,600
negative feedback and then the science

2629
01:44:55,430 --> 01:44:53,360
just doesn't advance

2630
01:44:57,910 --> 01:44:55,440
you know and as i wrote in this that's

2631
01:44:59,910 --> 01:44:57,920
what jeffrey

2632
01:45:01,510 --> 01:44:59,920
not jeffrey the guy um

2633
01:45:03,189 --> 01:45:01,520
who wrote the book with whitley strieber

2634
01:45:05,350 --> 01:45:03,199
the supernatural

2635
01:45:07,350 --> 01:45:05,360
um jeff kreipel said

2636
01:45:08,950 --> 01:45:07,360
that's the main problem with ufology and

2637
01:45:11,510 --> 01:45:08,960
all these subjects there's no funding so

2638
01:45:12,950 --> 01:45:11,520
we gotta get we have to change that um

2639
01:45:14,550 --> 01:45:12,960
it's great with the gila brand thing but

2640
01:45:17,590 --> 01:45:14,560
we need private funding too to do this

2641
01:45:20,070 --> 01:45:17,600
private research massive funding i think

2642
01:45:22,629 --> 01:45:20,080
john alexander says

2643
01:45:25,189 --> 01:45:22,639
billions of dollars and yeah it's like a

2644
01:45:27,910 --> 01:45:25,199
pretty big problem to try to understand

2645
01:45:30,310 --> 01:45:27,920
and nolan says science in its essence

2646
01:45:32,070 --> 01:45:30,320
and scientists are capitalists most

2647
01:45:35,430 --> 01:45:32,080
biology scientists in the country have

2648
01:45:37,430 --> 01:45:35,440
some relationship to studying cancer why

2649
01:45:42,950 --> 01:45:37,440
because of the money

2650
01:45:46,070 --> 01:45:44,629
and he talks about

2651
01:45:48,390 --> 01:45:46,080
jesse

2652
01:45:50,149 --> 01:45:48,400
talks about eight tip and the 22 million

2653
01:45:53,510 --> 01:45:50,159
dollars and i note that it was awesome

2654
01:45:56,229 --> 01:45:53,520
that got the 22 million dollars and

2655
01:45:57,270 --> 01:45:56,239
compare 22 million dollars for awesome

2656
01:45:59,109 --> 01:45:57,280
and

2657
01:46:01,590 --> 01:45:59,119
the budget for a fighter jet often

2658
01:46:03,669 --> 01:46:01,600
exceeds 100 billion for the fighter bat

2659
01:46:05,990 --> 01:46:03,679
fighter jet budgets for all the fighter

2660
01:46:09,430 --> 01:46:06,000
jets that budget exceeds 100 billion

2661
01:46:10,629 --> 01:46:09,440
dollars my god that's just

2662
01:46:11,910 --> 01:46:10,639
in other words discovering

2663
01:46:13,910 --> 01:46:11,920
extraterrestrial life and even

2664
01:46:15,510 --> 01:46:13,920
propulsion that could be stepwise better

2665
01:46:17,750 --> 01:46:15,520
than what we currently have

2666
01:46:20,390 --> 01:46:17,760
against less than one percent of the

2667
01:46:22,310 --> 01:46:20,400
current f-35 budget

2668
01:46:24,390 --> 01:46:22,320
and then i show that i mentioned that

2669
01:46:26,229 --> 01:46:24,400
cripel brought up funding how that's

2670
01:46:28,629 --> 01:46:26,239
such a big problem why we're not making

2671
01:46:29,990 --> 01:46:28,639
progress is at least publicly whatever's

2672
01:46:32,070 --> 01:46:30,000
going on pub

2673
01:46:34,149 --> 01:46:32,080
privately whatever progress they've made

2674
01:46:36,390 --> 01:46:34,159
we don't know about so

2675
01:46:39,109 --> 01:46:36,400
unless we get access to that it's not

2676
01:46:42,950 --> 01:46:40,950
who talks about the cia coming to his

2677
01:46:46,950 --> 01:46:42,960
office again and he brings up bigelow

2678
01:46:49,590 --> 01:46:46,960
kelleher put off in davis and the mris

2679
01:46:51,990 --> 01:46:49,600
and he says mentions up the caudate

2680
01:46:55,510 --> 01:46:52,000
entertainment and there's my

2681
01:46:58,390 --> 01:46:55,520
my public

2682
01:47:02,070 --> 01:46:58,400
picture that is royalty free of the

2683
01:47:07,750 --> 01:47:02,080
caudate nucleus and the petainin in the

2684
01:47:11,750 --> 01:47:09,750
you ask a question what's what's unique

2685
01:47:13,189 --> 01:47:11,760
about these individuals the ones that

2686
01:47:14,550 --> 01:47:13,199
they were studying they're all highly

2687
01:47:16,310 --> 01:47:14,560
functioning

2688
01:47:18,709 --> 01:47:16,320
you have to make snap decisions and so

2689
01:47:21,109 --> 01:47:18,719
what is that is that's intuition

2690
01:47:22,390 --> 01:47:21,119
one way to explain it you have to make

2691
01:47:25,590 --> 01:47:22,400
snap

2692
01:47:29,350 --> 01:47:27,830
and so what is that

2693
01:47:30,229 --> 01:47:29,360
that's intuition and i'm repeating i'm

2694
01:47:32,149 --> 01:47:30,239
sorry

2695
01:47:34,149 --> 01:47:32,159
one way to explain it would be intuition

2696
01:47:35,750 --> 01:47:34,159
or just highly intelligent and then

2697
01:47:37,830 --> 01:47:35,760
surprisingly when we look at the family

2698
01:47:40,229 --> 01:47:37,840
members we found that the family members

2699
01:47:42,390 --> 01:47:40,239
had it which is fascinating so that

2700
01:47:45,030 --> 01:47:42,400
means that structure had a genetic

2701
01:47:46,870 --> 01:47:45,040
component whatever it is

2702
01:47:48,229 --> 01:47:46,880
so that bundle of nerve the neurons you

2703
01:47:50,629 --> 01:47:48,239
know that

2704
01:47:54,390 --> 01:47:50,639
10 5 10 15 times more than normal that

2705
01:48:00,070 --> 01:47:57,669
so he asks jesse asks

2706
01:48:01,270 --> 01:48:00,080
do you have a genetic or phenotypic

2707
01:48:03,030 --> 01:48:01,280
relating to the observable

2708
01:48:04,390 --> 01:48:03,040
characteristics of an individual

2709
01:48:07,669 --> 01:48:04,400
resulting from the interaction of its

2710
01:48:09,430 --> 01:48:07,679
genotype with the environment

2711
01:48:12,310 --> 01:48:09,440
do you have a genetic or

2712
01:48:14,950 --> 01:48:12,320
phenotypic predisposition to seeing the

2713
01:48:16,870 --> 01:48:14,960
ufos or post contact do you now have a

2714
01:48:18,870 --> 01:48:16,880
more neuronally

2715
01:48:21,030 --> 01:48:18,880
neuronally that's caudate nucleus

2716
01:48:22,390 --> 01:48:21,040
entertainment and more psychic

2717
01:48:24,629 --> 01:48:22,400
no i don't think it's changed they're

2718
01:48:25,910 --> 01:48:24,639
just able to as you say see it in other

2719
01:48:27,990 --> 01:48:25,920
words he's saying he doesn't think it's

2720
01:48:30,070 --> 01:48:28,000
changed from their encounter with these

2721
01:48:32,149 --> 01:48:30,080
objects he thinks these people are just

2722
01:48:34,070 --> 01:48:32,159
able to see it they're able to recognize

2723
01:48:35,030 --> 01:48:34,080
it for what it might be and not dismiss

2724
01:48:39,109 --> 01:48:35,040
it

2725
01:48:43,030 --> 01:48:39,119
widen the doors of our normal

2726
01:48:45,189 --> 01:48:43,040
limited scope of perception nolan says

2727
01:48:47,550 --> 01:48:45,199
right you're seeing these ufos that

2728
01:48:50,229 --> 01:48:47,560
exist kind of

2729
01:48:52,950 --> 01:48:50,239
interstitially in reality that other

2730
01:48:55,510 --> 01:48:52,960
people just can't see

2731
01:48:57,510 --> 01:48:55,520
nolan says our senses are to filter to

2732
01:48:59,910 --> 01:48:57,520
stop our brains from being overwhelmed

2733
01:49:06,709 --> 01:48:59,920
with reality and so that what we see is

2734
01:49:10,550 --> 01:49:08,550
a little bit of this

2735
01:49:13,990 --> 01:49:10,560
i'll put this up in the next couple of

2736
01:49:17,910 --> 01:49:15,910
i don't know whether it's an antenna or

2737
01:49:20,390 --> 01:49:17,920
anything like that it just allows us to

2738
01:49:22,070 --> 01:49:20,400
interpret things better right so for

2739
01:49:23,990 --> 01:49:22,080
instance there's a form of japanese

2740
01:49:25,510 --> 01:49:24,000
chess which he spoke about in the other

2741
01:49:27,350 --> 01:49:25,520
interview

2742
01:49:30,070 --> 01:49:27,360
and they measure the folks who play this

2743
01:49:31,669 --> 01:49:30,080
shogi uh the masters

2744
01:49:33,669 --> 01:49:31,679
and when they make an unexpected

2745
01:49:36,310 --> 01:49:33,679
brilliant move that area of the brain

2746
01:49:38,709 --> 01:49:36,320
lights up the cardiopathamin

2747
01:49:41,270 --> 01:49:38,719
which is that

2748
01:49:44,550 --> 01:49:41,280
an old article i found on that that's an

2749
01:49:46,390 --> 01:49:44,560
old yeah about the shogi players

2750
01:49:49,189 --> 01:49:46,400
i'm not sure exactly how old i'll look

2751
01:49:52,790 --> 01:49:50,950
i find that fascinating we're actually

2752
01:49:54,629 --> 01:49:52,800
working on using both autism and

2753
01:49:57,189 --> 01:49:54,639
schizophrenics because this area of the

2754
01:49:59,109 --> 01:49:57,199
brain in both autism and schizophrenia

2755
01:50:01,350 --> 01:49:59,119
can be damaged but if you think a little

2756
01:50:03,109 --> 01:50:01,360
bit about it schizophrenics

2757
01:50:05,750 --> 01:50:03,119
hear things and see things that nobody

2758
01:50:06,950 --> 01:50:05,760
else sees so are they all crazy so i

2759
01:50:08,229 --> 01:50:06,960
don't know what is he what is he saying

2760
01:50:10,070 --> 01:50:08,239
there is cer

2761
01:50:13,430 --> 01:50:10,080
some schizophrenics

2762
01:50:14,950 --> 01:50:13,440
hearing stuff that actually is existing

2763
01:50:17,109 --> 01:50:14,960
outside of the realm of what normal

2764
01:50:18,310 --> 01:50:17,119
people can hear or see

2765
01:50:20,149 --> 01:50:18,320
um

2766
01:50:21,430 --> 01:50:20,159
i think it's morally here

2767
01:50:22,870 --> 01:50:21,440
and it's something really in another

2768
01:50:28,390 --> 01:50:22,880
dimension i don't know exactly what he's

2769
01:50:30,790 --> 01:50:29,430
so

2770
01:50:31,830 --> 01:50:30,800
jesse says well that goes into the

2771
01:50:33,589 --> 01:50:31,840
transmission theory i think

2772
01:50:35,669 --> 01:50:33,599
schizophrenics just it's like a

2773
01:50:37,589 --> 01:50:35,679
transmitter being broken or oscillating

2774
01:50:39,589 --> 01:50:37,599
between different frequencies they can't

2775
01:50:43,030 --> 01:50:39,599
turn it off he's like yep they can't

2776
01:50:46,709 --> 01:50:44,390
and then we talk about he goes into the

2777
01:50:48,070 --> 01:50:46,719
materials ufo materials

2778
01:50:49,109 --> 01:50:48,080
and valet

2779
01:50:50,310 --> 01:50:49,119
how

2780
01:50:51,990 --> 01:50:50,320
valet

2781
01:50:53,669 --> 01:50:52,000
he helped develop a computerized map of

2782
01:50:54,550 --> 01:50:53,679
mars while he was at nasa a long time

2783
01:50:55,669 --> 01:50:54,560
ago

2784
01:50:58,629 --> 01:50:55,679
and developed one of the earlier

2785
01:51:00,310 --> 01:50:58,639
versions of the internet called arpanet

2786
01:51:03,189 --> 01:51:00,320
he's also the inspiration for the french

2787
01:51:04,709 --> 01:51:03,199
scientist played by francois for fall in

2788
01:51:07,030 --> 01:51:04,719
steven spielberg's close encounters with

2789
01:51:11,030 --> 01:51:07,040
the third kind which i saw in the

2790
01:51:11,040 --> 01:51:15,750
which was one of my favorite movies

2791
01:51:20,149 --> 01:51:17,510
and he goes into

2792
01:51:22,070 --> 01:51:20,159
his narration of valet and other

2793
01:51:24,390 --> 01:51:22,080
ufologists

2794
01:51:25,990 --> 01:51:24,400
and they talk about

2795
01:51:27,030 --> 01:51:26,000
what is different about these samples

2796
01:51:29,350 --> 01:51:27,040
that they were looking at and he goes

2797
01:51:31,270 --> 01:51:29,360
into ubertuba it was december it was

2798
01:51:33,350 --> 01:51:31,280
september 57.

2799
01:51:35,669 --> 01:51:33,360
mirror beach the disc plunged and then

2800
01:51:38,270 --> 01:51:35,679
it rose again and exploded

2801
01:51:41,910 --> 01:51:38,280
um highly pure magnesium over

2802
01:51:44,229 --> 01:51:41,920
99.8 percent and valet interviewed

2803
01:51:46,390 --> 01:51:44,239
the doctor who did the analysis it was

2804
01:51:47,589 --> 01:51:46,400
also confirmed by dr stark peter stork

2805
01:51:49,750 --> 01:51:47,599
of stanford

2806
01:51:51,750 --> 01:51:49,760
who convened a panel in 98 and there

2807
01:51:54,390 --> 01:51:51,760
were articles if you look up the

2808
01:51:56,470 --> 01:51:54,400
peter stark 1998 i posted some of the

2809
01:51:58,310 --> 01:51:56,480
articles they had a group of scientists

2810
01:51:59,109 --> 01:51:58,320
looking at ufos and they said in the end

2811
01:52:00,709 --> 01:51:59,119
well we can't say they're

2812
01:52:02,709 --> 01:52:00,719
extraterrestrial we just believe it

2813
01:52:04,790 --> 01:52:02,719
deserves more study

2814
01:52:06,790 --> 01:52:04,800
he wrote an entire book on

2815
01:52:10,229 --> 01:52:06,800
some of his findings steric i forget

2816
01:52:12,149 --> 01:52:10,239
what it's called a ufo enigma maybe

2817
01:52:13,990 --> 01:52:12,159
and ubertuba had multiple samples

2818
01:52:18,390 --> 01:52:14,000
available

2819
01:52:22,390 --> 01:52:19,830
and nolan says it turned out the

2820
01:52:24,149 --> 01:52:22,400
magnesium in the ubertuba sample was an

2821
01:52:25,910 --> 01:52:24,159
extremely high level of purity but

2822
01:52:28,149 --> 01:52:25,920
that's not that's strange because

2823
01:52:30,070 --> 01:52:28,159
magnesium burns like hell so iv

2824
01:52:32,709 --> 01:52:30,080
obviously it had something else in it so

2825
01:52:34,629 --> 01:52:32,719
yeah we did a mass spectrometry

2826
01:52:36,390 --> 01:52:34,639
analysis of some of these pieces with a

2827
01:52:38,629 --> 01:52:36,400
highly sensitive instrument it's over in

2828
01:52:41,109 --> 01:52:38,639
the engineering department called a nano

2829
01:52:43,109 --> 01:52:41,119
sims it's a secondary ion mass

2830
01:52:46,390 --> 01:52:43,119
spectrometer as it's called and that's

2831
01:52:49,830 --> 01:52:48,070
and basically what it determines not

2832
01:52:51,830 --> 01:52:49,840
just the elements by their mass but also

2833
01:52:53,310 --> 01:52:51,840
the isotopes by their mass

2834
01:52:55,990 --> 01:52:53,320
and one of them was anomalous the

2835
01:52:57,750 --> 01:52:56,000
magnesium ratios were way off i mean not

2836
01:52:59,270 --> 01:52:57,760
even close to being natural it's

2837
01:53:01,350 --> 01:52:59,280
interesting right

2838
01:53:03,189 --> 01:53:01,360
so you would never find this naturally

2839
01:53:04,390 --> 01:53:03,199
occurring you would never find it in

2840
01:53:06,149 --> 01:53:04,400
nature

2841
01:53:07,589 --> 01:53:06,159
and you'd need some sort of centrifuge

2842
01:53:09,510 --> 01:53:07,599
or something to create that isotope

2843
01:53:11,510 --> 01:53:09,520
ratio yes

2844
01:53:13,830 --> 01:53:11,520
would that be possible oh it's possible

2845
01:53:15,109 --> 01:53:13,840
it's just expensive beyond you know

2846
01:53:17,510 --> 01:53:15,119
he's like well most people don't have

2847
01:53:19,109 --> 01:53:17,520
access to a centrifuge and nolan's like

2848
01:53:21,430 --> 01:53:19,119
especially when these things were found

2849
01:53:26,470 --> 01:53:24,149
back in the 50s 60s

2850
01:53:28,550 --> 01:53:26,480
talk about beyond expensive and then the

2851
01:53:30,709 --> 01:53:28,560
question is why would you even do that

2852
01:53:32,070 --> 01:53:30,719
what's the motivation

2853
01:53:34,310 --> 01:53:32,080
is it something they're using and they

2854
01:53:36,229 --> 01:53:34,320
need the ratio to accomplish something

2855
01:53:38,149 --> 01:53:36,239
or is it a byproduct of an effect that

2856
01:53:39,910 --> 01:53:38,159
where they take the natural things and

2857
01:53:41,750 --> 01:53:39,920
then they're doing something and this

2858
01:53:43,189 --> 01:53:41,760
ends up being the outcome

2859
01:53:45,270 --> 01:53:43,199
and then when they're done with it they

2860
01:53:47,510 --> 01:53:45,280
go eh

2861
01:53:49,030 --> 01:53:47,520
and then they throw it out right

2862
01:53:50,629 --> 01:53:49,040
he made those noises

2863
01:53:52,390 --> 01:53:50,639
whether or not these objects are trying

2864
01:53:54,310 --> 01:53:52,400
to show us something or they or they

2865
01:53:56,550 --> 01:53:54,320
don't care we see this happening and

2866
01:53:58,310 --> 01:53:56,560
that maybe that tells you something you

2867
01:54:00,870 --> 01:53:58,320
know you can sort of reverse engineer

2868
01:54:04,790 --> 01:54:00,880
from first principles maybe what it is

2869
01:54:07,109 --> 01:54:04,800
nobody that i know has figured it out

2870
01:54:10,709 --> 01:54:07,119
and he talks about

2871
01:54:13,430 --> 01:54:10,719
the fives observable five observables

2872
01:54:13,440 --> 01:54:20,550
nimitz and favor

2873
01:54:24,950 --> 01:54:23,430
this is interesting

2874
01:54:26,950 --> 01:54:24,960
jesse's like why isn't the government

2875
01:54:29,669 --> 01:54:26,960
immediately funding this research i mean

2876
01:54:32,950 --> 01:54:29,679
it feels insane and no one's like you

2877
01:54:35,030 --> 01:54:32,960
tell me i mean maybe they have done it

2878
01:54:39,030 --> 01:54:35,040
maybe the stuff that we have somebody is

2879
01:54:41,750 --> 01:54:39,040
sitting around saying laughably

2880
01:54:44,790 --> 01:54:41,760
they're wasting their time on exhaust

2881
01:54:47,669 --> 01:54:44,800
we have the engine and i do think

2882
01:54:49,030 --> 01:54:47,679
i do think somebody has the engine but i

2883
01:54:51,109 --> 01:54:49,040
don't think the government knows that

2884
01:54:52,870 --> 01:54:51,119
like like we've talked about in a

2885
01:54:55,189 --> 01:54:52,880
special access program the people who

2886
01:54:58,390 --> 01:54:55,199
have access to that or even knowledge of

2887
01:55:01,030 --> 01:54:58,400
that it's a very small amount of people

2888
01:55:03,990 --> 01:55:01,040
including christopher mellon who did not

2889
01:55:06,310 --> 01:55:04,000
know about that until he was

2890
01:55:07,669 --> 01:55:06,320
briefed into how those programs are

2891
01:55:09,189 --> 01:55:07,679
hidden

2892
01:55:10,790 --> 01:55:09,199
and where to look

2893
01:55:12,629 --> 01:55:10,800
and now when you hear him talk he's more

2894
01:55:14,390 --> 01:55:12,639
open-minded if you look at his old

2895
01:55:16,830 --> 01:55:14,400
interviews it's a different story

2896
01:55:20,709 --> 01:55:16,840
somewhere between the older interview

2897
01:55:22,550 --> 01:55:20,719
and the recent interviews somebody had

2898
01:55:24,550 --> 01:55:22,560
a conversation with him

2899
01:55:26,149 --> 01:55:24,560
i'm not speculating there that's what i

2900
01:55:27,430 --> 01:55:26,159
was told um

2901
01:55:29,669 --> 01:55:27,440
can't prove that i'm just telling you

2902
01:55:31,109 --> 01:55:29,679
that's what i was told

2903
01:55:32,950 --> 01:55:31,119
if something came from the drama

2904
01:55:34,790 --> 01:55:32,960
andromeda galaxy and it's a million

2905
01:55:36,229 --> 01:55:34,800
years ahead of us and it lands on earth

2906
01:55:37,589 --> 01:55:36,239
it has technologies that we don't

2907
01:55:39,510 --> 01:55:37,599
understand

2908
01:55:41,189 --> 01:55:39,520
and then jesse's like some think aliens

2909
01:55:42,229 --> 01:55:41,199
might be us from the future nolan was

2910
01:55:43,510 --> 01:55:42,239
like yeah

2911
01:55:45,030 --> 01:55:43,520
and if you think about the way we're

2912
01:55:47,270 --> 01:55:45,040
evolving

2913
01:55:48,709 --> 01:55:47,280
jesse says you know i should have made

2914
01:55:50,070 --> 01:55:48,719
it clear who was saying what because i

2915
01:55:51,990 --> 01:55:50,080
know people i'm gonna try to make this

2916
01:55:53,830 --> 01:55:52,000
into an audio podcast and i have to

2917
01:55:56,390 --> 01:55:53,840
remember that it sucks for the people

2918
01:55:57,910 --> 01:55:56,400
watching but

2919
01:55:59,430 --> 01:55:57,920
i will remember that going forward and

2920
01:56:01,109 --> 01:55:59,440
i'm still working on getting these onto

2921
01:56:02,709 --> 01:56:01,119
a podcast i have to figure out how to do

2922
01:56:04,870 --> 01:56:02,719
that i know it's not that hard but some

2923
01:56:06,470 --> 01:56:04,880
of them you have to pay 25 bucks a month

2924
01:56:07,910 --> 01:56:06,480
and

2925
01:56:09,270 --> 01:56:07,920
i'll figure it out

2926
01:56:11,109 --> 01:56:09,280
uh if you think about the way we're

2927
01:56:13,189 --> 01:56:11,119
evolving it's probably you know talking

2928
01:56:15,669 --> 01:56:13,199
about grays it's probably smaller bodies

2929
01:56:17,109 --> 01:56:15,679
bigger heads and nolan's like yeah

2930
01:56:19,350 --> 01:56:17,119
jesse's like sort of what you would see

2931
01:56:20,870 --> 01:56:19,360
a great gray alien look like nolan's

2932
01:56:22,390 --> 01:56:20,880
like yeah i've always been interested in

2933
01:56:25,589 --> 01:56:22,400
the five percent i don't know i'll

2934
01:56:26,870 --> 01:56:25,599
publish the 95 i do know but i'm always

2935
01:56:29,350 --> 01:56:26,880
interested in the stuff that i can't

2936
01:56:31,270 --> 01:56:29,360
explain because almost every major

2937
01:56:34,790 --> 01:56:31,280
discovery has been somebody looking at

2938
01:56:38,070 --> 01:56:36,550
and then constructing a new theory of

2939
01:56:40,070 --> 01:56:38,080
reality right

2940
01:56:42,470 --> 01:56:40,080
and that's thomas kuhn the structure of

2941
01:56:44,709 --> 01:56:42,480
scientific revolutions

2942
01:56:46,790 --> 01:56:44,719
the notion that almost every scientific

2943
01:56:49,189 --> 01:56:46,800
revolution was fought tooth and nail by

2944
01:56:52,550 --> 01:56:49,199
the more conservative skeptics saying

2945
01:56:55,109 --> 01:56:52,560
you can't possibly be right

2946
01:56:57,430 --> 01:56:55,119
and thomas [\h__\h] was friends with john

2947
01:57:00,390 --> 01:56:57,440
mack this is jesse now saying this that

2948
01:57:02,470 --> 01:57:00,400
was nolan jesse goes and thomas kuhn was

2949
01:57:04,390 --> 01:57:02,480
friends with john mack who was the head

2950
01:57:05,910 --> 01:57:04,400
of the harvard psychiatry department who

2951
01:57:08,709 --> 01:57:05,920
spent the latter part

2952
01:57:10,709 --> 01:57:08,719
of his career studying alien abductions

2953
01:57:12,709 --> 01:57:10,719
and nolan says about

2954
01:57:14,870 --> 01:57:12,719
[\h__\h] being friends with mac

2955
01:57:16,790 --> 01:57:14,880
donald says i didn't know that

2956
01:57:18,550 --> 01:57:16,800
jesse says yeah and he encouraged him to

2957
01:57:20,870 --> 01:57:18,560
do the study

2958
01:57:23,189 --> 01:57:20,880
nolan says cool well that's interesting

2959
01:57:24,390 --> 01:57:23,199
i'm going to use that in my talks jesse

2960
01:57:26,390 --> 01:57:24,400
says you should

2961
01:57:28,070 --> 01:57:26,400
nolan says you know

2962
01:57:31,589 --> 01:57:28,080
i think that's where we're at right now

2963
01:57:33,270 --> 01:57:31,599
the preponderance of evidence now and

2964
01:57:35,350 --> 01:57:33,280
the department of defense admitting that

2965
01:57:37,910 --> 01:57:35,360
these things are real that the data is

2966
01:57:39,109 --> 01:57:37,920
real there's no conclusions but the data

2967
01:57:40,709 --> 01:57:39,119
is real

2968
01:57:41,990 --> 01:57:40,719
so this is what i added i went back and

2969
01:57:45,270 --> 01:57:42,000
found this

2970
01:57:49,510 --> 01:57:45,280
the mac [\h__\h] connection thomas kuhn in a

2971
01:57:52,629 --> 01:57:51,270
david j brown says could you say

2972
01:57:54,870 --> 01:57:52,639
something about your interaction with

2973
01:57:57,669 --> 01:57:54,880
thomas kuhn regarding your approach to

2974
01:57:59,669 --> 01:57:57,679
researching the abduction phenomenon

2975
01:58:01,990 --> 01:57:59,679
this is 1996.

2976
01:58:04,310 --> 01:58:02,000
john mack says i knew thomas kuhn as a

2977
01:58:05,589 --> 01:58:04,320
child because our parents were friends i

2978
01:58:07,669 --> 01:58:05,599
used to go there every christmas for

2979
01:58:09,270 --> 01:58:07,679
eggnog and liver pate

2980
01:58:10,950 --> 01:58:09,280
when i started doing this work i went to

2981
01:58:12,629 --> 01:58:10,960
see him and he was interested

2982
01:58:15,510 --> 01:58:12,639
interested he cautioned me in various

2983
01:58:17,830 --> 01:58:15,520
ways he advised me to just collect data

2984
01:58:21,030 --> 01:58:17,840
to try to suspend judgment and look out

2985
01:58:25,189 --> 01:58:21,040
for the traps of language like real

2986
01:58:26,550 --> 01:58:25,199
unreal exists doesn't exist happened

2987
01:58:28,870 --> 01:58:26,560
didn't happen

2988
01:58:31,350 --> 01:58:28,880
intra-psychic outside

2989
01:58:33,510 --> 01:58:31,360
he advised me to just report to record

2990
01:58:36,149 --> 01:58:33,520
what people were feeling and saying and

2991
01:58:38,709 --> 01:58:36,159
that's what i've tried to do

2992
01:58:40,470 --> 01:58:38,719
that continues the other thing that kuhn

2993
01:58:42,149 --> 01:58:40,480
said was don't worry about science

2994
01:58:44,470 --> 01:58:42,159
because in this culture science has

2995
01:58:46,790 --> 01:58:44,480
become a new kind of theology

2996
01:58:48,709 --> 01:58:46,800
what you're really interested in he said

2997
01:58:51,109 --> 01:58:48,719
is trying to learn something and gain

2998
01:58:52,149 --> 01:58:51,119
knowledge whether it'll satisfy science

2999
01:58:54,790 --> 01:58:52,159
or not

3000
01:58:56,790 --> 01:58:54,800
science prefers to study primarily with

3001
01:58:59,430 --> 01:58:56,800
primarily within the purely material

3002
01:59:01,189 --> 01:58:59,440
world he said but don't worry about that

3003
01:59:03,990 --> 01:59:01,199
now the other thing he said was to just

3004
01:59:05,589 --> 01:59:04,000
publish in scientific journals and don't

3005
01:59:07,510 --> 01:59:05,599
write a book

3006
01:59:10,629 --> 01:59:07,520
this was because he had gotten so much

3007
01:59:12,790 --> 01:59:10,639
interest intentions intense interest and

3008
01:59:14,870 --> 01:59:12,800
flack around his book that sometimes he

3009
01:59:16,550 --> 01:59:14,880
was troubled about it he's kind of a shy

3010
01:59:18,709 --> 01:59:16,560
man

3011
01:59:20,390 --> 01:59:18,719
brown says his book the structure of

3012
01:59:22,229 --> 01:59:20,400
scientific revolutions has become

3013
01:59:24,310 --> 01:59:22,239
standard introductory reading in

3014
01:59:25,830 --> 01:59:24,320
virtually every history of science

3015
01:59:27,109 --> 01:59:25,840
course in the world

3016
01:59:29,109 --> 01:59:27,119
max like

3017
01:59:31,350 --> 01:59:29,119
in some ways he seems to lament the

3018
01:59:32,870 --> 01:59:31,360
reception of his book i don't think he's

3019
01:59:35,189 --> 01:59:32,880
right that he did

3020
01:59:38,070 --> 01:59:35,199
his book as with any popularization of

3021
01:59:39,750 --> 01:59:38,080
any important and complex concept

3022
01:59:41,589 --> 01:59:39,760
is going to be misunderstood by a lot of

3023
01:59:43,109 --> 01:59:41,599
people who are going to want to cloak

3024
01:59:44,629 --> 01:59:43,119
themselves in his mantle but i think

3025
01:59:48,310 --> 01:59:44,639
that if you have something you want to

3026
01:59:49,350 --> 01:59:48,320
say it's okay to do it in a book

3027
01:59:51,109 --> 01:59:49,360
brown

3028
01:59:52,709 --> 01:59:51,119
why did you write abduction

3029
01:59:54,550 --> 01:59:52,719
mac

3030
01:59:56,390 --> 01:59:54,560
i didn't take his advice on that one and

3031
01:59:58,310 --> 01:59:56,400
i did write a book first of all i

3032
02:00:01,109 --> 01:59:58,320
couldn't get what i had to say down in

3033
02:00:03,669 --> 02:00:01,119
an article because it's too complex and

3034
02:00:05,510 --> 02:00:03,679
the cases were too elaborate i wanted to

3035
02:00:07,910 --> 02:00:05,520
lay out a kind of map of the whole

3036
02:00:10,070 --> 02:00:07,920
phenomenon as best i could from what i

3037
02:00:12,070 --> 02:00:10,080
experienced i thought it was important

3038
02:00:13,910 --> 02:00:12,080
regardless of whether these beings are

3039
02:00:15,990 --> 02:00:13,920
to be taken literally as material

3040
02:00:18,550 --> 02:00:16,000
entities or whether there's something

3041
02:00:20,470 --> 02:00:18,560
more complex and subtle that crosses

3042
02:00:21,350 --> 02:00:20,480
over from the unseen into the material

3043
02:00:24,310 --> 02:00:21,360
world

3044
02:00:27,669 --> 02:00:24,320
whatever it is demonic or material

3045
02:00:30,070 --> 02:00:27,679
reality it seemed to me important and a

3046
02:00:31,990 --> 02:00:30,080
big story that i wanted to report so

3047
02:00:33,990 --> 02:00:32,000
that's what i did

3048
02:00:36,310 --> 02:00:34,000
that was the only clip in that mac

3049
02:00:41,589 --> 02:00:36,320
interview which i linked to in that

3050
02:00:41,599 --> 02:00:45,990
i'm just looking at any if there's any

3051
02:00:53,189 --> 02:00:50,149
questions ufo poo exactly

3052
02:00:56,229 --> 02:00:53,199
put a diaper on that ufo damn it

3053
02:00:56,239 --> 02:01:03,270
i think we need a shirt ufo poo

3054
02:01:12,870 --> 02:01:05,430
the pie of the craft we see in our skies

3055
02:01:12,880 --> 02:01:16,629
i might spend money on nolan

3056
02:01:20,790 --> 02:01:19,589
i don't know why you're asking that um

3057
02:01:23,510 --> 02:01:20,800
there's not a lot of people actually

3058
02:01:25,030 --> 02:01:23,520
willing to even talk about this subject

3059
02:01:29,910 --> 02:01:25,040
let alone

3060
02:01:33,270 --> 02:01:31,189
we're not alone and i'll read this for

3061
02:01:34,629 --> 02:01:33,280
people listening sorry we're not alone

3062
02:01:36,390 --> 02:01:34,639
on this planet several highly advanced

3063
02:01:39,750 --> 02:01:36,400
species live in our oceans how is that

3064
02:01:41,750 --> 02:01:39,760
not obvious by now not obvious to me um

3065
02:01:43,430 --> 02:01:41,760
i think something here is interacting

3066
02:01:45,350 --> 02:01:43,440
with us and the ocean theory is very

3067
02:01:47,270 --> 02:01:45,360
plausible as we see stuff coming out of

3068
02:01:49,350 --> 02:01:47,280
the oceans i don't know if they live

3069
02:01:51,030 --> 02:01:49,360
there um

3070
02:01:52,310 --> 02:01:51,040
i don't know i know people report seeing

3071
02:01:53,430 --> 02:01:52,320
that um

3072
02:01:59,750 --> 02:01:53,440
and i don't think that's human

3073
02:02:03,669 --> 02:02:01,990
yeah

3074
02:02:06,070 --> 02:02:03,679
don't know

3075
02:02:07,830 --> 02:02:06,080
uh well sorry i will read the comments

3076
02:02:09,350 --> 02:02:07,840
for people listening wake up folks our

3077
02:02:11,270 --> 02:02:09,360
military has been in a cat and mouse

3078
02:02:13,189 --> 02:02:11,280
game with our underwater neighbors for

3079
02:02:16,229 --> 02:02:13,199
many years starting with operation high

3080
02:02:18,310 --> 02:02:16,239
jump and admiral bird which is very

3081
02:02:20,709 --> 02:02:18,320
controversial

3082
02:02:22,310 --> 02:02:20,719
you're bringing brainwashed to be you're

3083
02:02:25,030 --> 02:02:22,320
being brainwashed to believe they're

3084
02:02:30,550 --> 02:02:28,390
they may be from here yeah you know

3085
02:02:32,790 --> 02:02:30,560
you never see that brought up it's very

3086
02:02:34,629 --> 02:02:32,800
rare i don't think i've seen it in any

3087
02:02:36,149 --> 02:02:34,639
mainstream article saying

3088
02:02:38,709 --> 02:02:36,159
the possibility remains that we're

3089
02:02:40,870 --> 02:02:38,719
dealing with an intelligence that is

3090
02:02:43,030 --> 02:02:40,880
native to the planet earth and they may

3091
02:02:47,990 --> 02:02:43,040
be more intelligent than us and maybe

3092
02:02:52,149 --> 02:02:49,990
the cyclone cyclotron was one of the

3093
02:02:52,950 --> 02:02:52,159
earliest types of part reading comments

3094
02:02:54,950 --> 02:02:52,960
again

3095
02:02:56,950 --> 02:02:54,960
earliest types of particle acceleraces

3096
02:02:58,870 --> 02:02:56,960
and is still used as the first stage of

3097
02:03:06,229 --> 02:02:58,880
some large multi-stage particle

3098
02:03:10,470 --> 02:03:08,790
and video addicts says the ufo video x

3099
02:03:11,830 --> 02:03:10,480
says if you saw your neighbors walking

3100
02:03:13,109 --> 02:03:11,840
in and out of their homes every single

3101
02:03:14,390 --> 02:03:13,119
day would you assume they're just

3102
02:03:19,270 --> 02:03:14,400
visiting

3103
02:03:19,280 --> 02:03:22,229
all right

3104
02:03:25,270 --> 02:03:23,830
uh he talks about

3105
02:03:27,109 --> 02:03:25,280
the theory

3106
02:03:29,430 --> 02:03:27,119
jesse says there he likes best is the

3107
02:03:32,790 --> 02:03:29,440
valet plastic theory

3108
02:03:34,629 --> 02:03:32,800
that 1947 the roswell crash represents

3109
02:03:36,790 --> 02:03:34,639
the dividing line and before the people

3110
02:03:38,149 --> 02:03:36,800
were seeing before that people were see

3111
02:03:39,669 --> 02:03:38,159
people were seeing angels demons

3112
02:03:41,669 --> 02:03:39,679
leprechauns fairies

3113
02:03:44,390 --> 02:03:41,679
whatever the local contemporary lore of

3114
02:03:46,470 --> 02:03:44,400
where the sighting took place was

3115
02:03:49,510 --> 02:03:46,480
i don't know before that because we have

3116
02:03:50,629 --> 02:03:49,520
lou talking about 1930s and a crash

3117
02:03:55,109 --> 02:03:50,639
related to

3118
02:03:57,830 --> 02:03:57,030
near trinity

3119
02:03:58,870 --> 02:03:57,840
so

3120
02:04:00,709 --> 02:03:58,880
but still

3121
02:04:03,910 --> 02:04:00,719
i you could still base it around modern

3122
02:04:06,709 --> 02:04:03,920
day in the old days you know yes

3123
02:04:08,950 --> 02:04:06,719
maybe the fairies

3124
02:04:12,709 --> 02:04:08,960
and demons and leprechauns or the aliens

3125
02:04:14,870 --> 02:04:12,719
of today i don't know i don't know maybe

3126
02:04:16,629 --> 02:04:14,880
um

3127
02:04:19,189 --> 02:04:16,639
then later aliens became something in

3128
02:04:20,629 --> 02:04:19,199
the zeitgeist this is jesse that's what

3129
02:04:22,629 --> 02:04:20,639
people started to see but you're seeing

3130
02:04:24,629 --> 02:04:22,639
some sort of kind of proto-architecture

3131
02:04:26,870 --> 02:04:24,639
of a thing that involves beings and

3132
02:04:29,750 --> 02:04:26,880
crafts and then you're recollecting it

3133
02:04:31,669 --> 02:04:29,760
in a way that is comprehensible to you

3134
02:04:33,270 --> 02:04:31,679
given kind of like the noble myth or the

3135
02:04:35,350 --> 02:04:33,280
myth of the time

3136
02:04:37,589 --> 02:04:35,360
nolan says right i use the example of

3137
02:04:38,390 --> 02:04:37,599
let's say there's a race of intelligent

3138
02:04:40,229 --> 02:04:38,400
ants

3139
02:04:41,669 --> 02:04:40,239
out in your garden

3140
02:04:43,270 --> 02:04:41,679
they don't have a clue what's going up

3141
02:04:44,790 --> 02:04:43,280
in the kitchen right

3142
02:04:46,149 --> 02:04:44,800
they couldn't understand it if they

3143
02:04:48,709 --> 02:04:46,159
wanted to and neither could you

3144
02:04:50,550 --> 02:04:48,719
understand what their communications are

3145
02:04:52,310 --> 02:04:50,560
how do you talk to them

3146
02:04:53,750 --> 02:04:52,320
well the first thing you would probably

3147
02:04:56,310 --> 02:04:53,760
do is make a little thing that looks

3148
02:04:57,750 --> 02:04:56,320
like an ant and put it there

3149
02:05:01,830 --> 02:04:57,760
and have

3150
02:05:02,790 --> 02:05:01,840
that's what it is

3151
02:05:06,629 --> 02:05:02,800
and that's what i'm talking about

3152
02:05:09,270 --> 02:05:06,639
earlier so maybe what we see is a gray

3153
02:05:10,629 --> 02:05:09,280
or whatever type of beings it's just

3154
02:05:12,390 --> 02:05:10,639
their way of

3155
02:05:14,709 --> 02:05:12,400
communicating with us because that's how

3156
02:05:17,030 --> 02:05:14,719
we communicate by seeing a being

3157
02:05:19,910 --> 02:05:17,040
maybe we're not dealing with beings

3158
02:05:21,990 --> 02:05:19,920
maybe it's not maybe it's a.i maybe it's

3159
02:05:24,149 --> 02:05:22,000
something totally non-physical

3160
02:05:25,510 --> 02:05:24,159
but can take physical form if it needs

3161
02:05:31,189 --> 02:05:25,520
to

3162
02:05:33,430 --> 02:05:31,199
so maybe that's what it is i mean alien

3163
02:05:34,950 --> 02:05:33,440
means alien right i mean it's so far

3164
02:05:37,350 --> 02:05:34,960
different from us that it's doing its

3165
02:05:39,990 --> 02:05:37,360
best to talk to us in ways

3166
02:05:41,589 --> 02:05:40,000
that it can do

3167
02:05:43,910 --> 02:05:41,599
they're either from another planet in

3168
02:05:47,030 --> 02:05:43,920
this galaxy or elsewhere

3169
02:05:48,629 --> 02:05:47,040
underground or nearby or whatever

3170
02:05:50,310 --> 02:05:48,639
and they just show up to look at us and

3171
02:05:53,270 --> 02:05:50,320
because they're basically maybe looking

3172
02:05:54,950 --> 02:05:53,280
at their past or interdimensional and

3173
02:05:57,030 --> 02:05:54,960
they're from another another level of

3174
02:05:58,310 --> 02:05:57,040
reality that we don't understand all

3175
02:05:59,430 --> 02:05:58,320
speculation

3176
02:06:00,950 --> 02:05:59,440
but fun

3177
02:06:02,709 --> 02:06:00,960
you can run your mind down these

3178
02:06:04,550 --> 02:06:02,719
possibilities and realize how much

3179
02:06:06,390 --> 02:06:04,560
bigger a universe you live in

3180
02:06:07,910 --> 02:06:06,400
than what you're dealing with day to day

3181
02:06:09,430 --> 02:06:07,920
and of course the skeptics will say

3182
02:06:11,030 --> 02:06:09,440
that's why these people make this up

3183
02:06:14,229 --> 02:06:11,040
because their day-to-day lives are so

3184
02:06:16,550 --> 02:06:14,239
boring they need to fantasize about ufos

3185
02:06:17,750 --> 02:06:16,560
which is [\h__\h] um

3186
02:06:19,910 --> 02:06:17,760
he's just talking about different

3187
02:06:22,149 --> 02:06:19,920
theories it's a real phenomenon we're

3188
02:06:23,910 --> 02:06:22,159
not nobody's fantasizing about that we

3189
02:06:26,470 --> 02:06:23,920
have we have the data we have the

3190
02:06:28,310 --> 02:06:26,480
sightings for decades and decades

3191
02:06:29,750 --> 02:06:28,320
as far as what it is

3192
02:06:32,470 --> 02:06:29,760
yes

3193
02:06:33,830 --> 02:06:32,480
speculation

3194
02:06:36,229 --> 02:06:33,840
i have a group of scientists who are

3195
02:06:37,750 --> 02:06:36,239
supposed to be leading thinkers the base

3196
02:06:40,069 --> 02:06:37,760
people who are interested in thinking

3197
02:06:43,589 --> 02:06:40,079
about new ideas is to me

3198
02:06:45,830 --> 02:06:43,599
that's heretical that was nolan

3199
02:06:48,870 --> 02:06:45,840
and then they talk about the fermi

3200
02:06:52,470 --> 02:06:48,880
paradox jesse brings us off basically if

3201
02:06:54,470 --> 02:06:52,480
aliens are you know if there are aliens

3202
02:06:56,390 --> 02:06:54,480
in the solar system or in this universe

3203
02:06:57,910 --> 02:06:56,400
where are they they should be here

3204
02:07:00,149 --> 02:06:57,920
that's the fermi per

3205
02:07:01,830 --> 02:07:00,159
paradox they're not here so what's the

3206
02:07:07,750 --> 02:07:01,840
deal

3207
02:07:11,109 --> 02:07:09,589
splitting the um so he says yeah it

3208
02:07:13,589 --> 02:07:11,119
feels like it's gotten worse in terms of

3209
02:07:15,669 --> 02:07:13,599
established scientists as far as

3210
02:07:17,669 --> 02:07:15,679
making fun of people who look into ufos

3211
02:07:19,510 --> 02:07:17,679
and other stuff

3212
02:07:21,350 --> 02:07:19,520
talk about the fermi paradox which is

3213
02:07:23,109 --> 02:07:21,360
the mental model a question of like why

3214
02:07:24,310 --> 02:07:23,119
don't we see aliens

3215
02:07:26,550 --> 02:07:24,320
he's the guy that created the

3216
02:07:29,270 --> 02:07:26,560
underpinning underpinnings for splitting

3217
02:07:31,430 --> 02:07:29,280
the atom he was in the manhattan project

3218
02:07:32,870 --> 02:07:31,440
sort of as conventionally well-regarded

3219
02:07:35,270 --> 02:07:32,880
as it gets and he was thinking about

3220
02:07:36,310 --> 02:07:35,280
aliens in his time off at los alamos so

3221
02:07:38,550 --> 02:07:36,320
it's like

3222
02:07:40,709 --> 02:07:38,560
why can't we do that

3223
02:07:42,229 --> 02:07:40,719
nolan's like when your mind expands to a

3224
02:07:44,149 --> 02:07:42,239
certain point in terms of what you might

3225
02:07:47,830 --> 02:07:44,159
consider reality to be

3226
02:07:52,069 --> 02:07:49,750
and jesse go so this should be the

3227
02:07:54,870 --> 02:07:52,079
rallying cry to anybody watching on the

3228
02:07:56,310 --> 02:07:54,880
financing front is there any way we can

3229
02:07:58,310 --> 02:07:56,320
and then he jumps in he goes is there

3230
02:08:00,390 --> 02:07:58,320
any way we can see the materials

3231
02:08:01,990 --> 02:08:00,400
he says nolan's like i have some in a

3232
02:08:03,910 --> 02:08:02,000
locked bank account

3233
02:08:05,910 --> 02:08:03,920
and jessica laughs and nolan says no

3234
02:08:08,149 --> 02:08:05,920
honestly i don't have it hanging around

3235
02:08:08,790 --> 02:08:08,159
here i can do a video for you and send

3236
02:08:10,390 --> 02:08:08,800
it

3237
02:08:11,750 --> 02:08:10,400
and then the video cuts to one week

3238
02:08:13,270 --> 02:08:11,760
later

3239
02:08:14,629 --> 02:08:13,280
uh where

3240
02:08:16,870 --> 02:08:14,639
nolan apparently went to his bank

3241
02:08:18,709 --> 02:08:16,880
account pulled out the ufo parts

3242
02:08:20,870 --> 02:08:18,719
that are allegedly from they're from

3243
02:08:24,310 --> 02:08:20,880
possible ufo crashes

3244
02:08:27,430 --> 02:08:24,320
um that's some of it from the video

3245
02:08:29,430 --> 02:08:27,440
i showed earlier

3246
02:08:31,750 --> 02:08:29,440
and he says he just these are small and

3247
02:08:33,910 --> 02:08:31,760
then he lists he goes

3248
02:08:35,990 --> 02:08:33,920
the three facts

3249
02:08:37,910 --> 02:08:36,000
observers with real this is jesse

3250
02:08:39,510 --> 02:08:37,920
observers with real no real monetary

3251
02:08:41,270 --> 02:08:39,520
incentive to lie claimed to see a

3252
02:08:43,030 --> 02:08:41,280
vehicle that broke the bounds of our

3253
02:08:44,870 --> 02:08:43,040
current understanding of aerospace

3254
02:08:47,030 --> 02:08:44,880
limitations to

3255
02:08:49,589 --> 02:08:47,040
the materials contain isotope ratios

3256
02:08:50,390 --> 02:08:49,599
that do not exist naturally on earth

3257
02:08:52,629 --> 02:08:50,400
three

3258
02:08:54,790 --> 02:08:52,639
a top stanford microbiologist isn't

3259
02:08:59,589 --> 02:08:54,800
ruling out the fact that these parts

3260
02:09:05,030 --> 02:09:01,990
well yeah they're small um he says but

3261
02:09:06,390 --> 02:09:05,040
these should get you excited and

3262
02:09:11,430 --> 02:09:06,400
nolan says

3263
02:09:15,109 --> 02:09:13,430
one piece is normal then the other piece

3264
02:09:16,629 --> 02:09:15,119
we're talking about ubertuba

3265
02:09:18,310 --> 02:09:16,639
that came from the same event has

3266
02:09:20,629 --> 02:09:18,320
exactly the correct ice one has the

3267
02:09:22,310 --> 02:09:20,639
correct isotopes and the other one is

3268
02:09:24,149 --> 02:09:22,320
totally different

3269
02:09:25,430 --> 02:09:24,159
um he says

3270
02:09:26,790 --> 02:09:25,440
it's kind of like if you were to take a

3271
02:09:28,790 --> 02:09:26,800
chocolate ice cream and vanilla ice

3272
02:09:30,069 --> 02:09:28,800
cream this is nolan and then just do a

3273
02:09:32,390 --> 02:09:30,079
little bit of a swirl you could see a

3274
02:09:34,310 --> 02:09:32,400
mixture and we call that inhomo

3275
02:09:35,910 --> 02:09:34,320
homogeneous

3276
02:09:37,510 --> 02:09:35,920
why would you mix some of these elements

3277
02:09:38,950 --> 02:09:37,520
that's actually again no good reason

3278
02:09:40,870 --> 02:09:38,960
there's no good reason there's no metal

3279
02:09:42,390 --> 02:09:40,880
that people normally make that have some

3280
02:09:45,990 --> 02:09:42,400
of the mixtures that we've seen so

3281
02:09:51,990 --> 02:09:49,830
and then we talk about uh

3282
02:09:54,149 --> 02:09:52,000
you know

3283
02:09:55,350 --> 02:09:54,159
this goes really long and

3284
02:09:57,270 --> 02:09:55,360
i'm not gonna go through all this i'm

3285
02:10:01,109 --> 02:09:57,280
gonna go back to my uh twitter and see

3286
02:10:02,629 --> 02:10:01,119
if there's anything else i wanna share

3287
02:10:03,910 --> 02:10:02,639
i got my help put off and they talk

3288
02:10:05,350 --> 02:10:03,920
about

3289
02:10:08,390 --> 02:10:05,360
well yeah i'll just read the put off

3290
02:10:09,109 --> 02:10:08,400
stuff so put off calls in

3291
02:10:10,870 --> 02:10:09,119
and

3292
02:10:13,189 --> 02:10:10,880
hi hal

3293
02:10:15,350 --> 02:10:13,199
they talk about this one sample

3294
02:10:16,229 --> 02:10:15,360
which is the sample that linda molten

3295
02:10:18,149 --> 02:10:16,239
had

3296
02:10:19,910 --> 02:10:18,159
she sold to ttsa i don't know if it was

3297
02:10:21,750 --> 02:10:19,920
one or more samples uh

3298
02:10:23,430 --> 02:10:21,760
originally it was given to art bell they

3299
02:10:26,790 --> 02:10:23,440
were called arts parts then it went to

3300
02:10:29,750 --> 02:10:26,800
lint molten howe and then ttsa got a

3301
02:10:31,830 --> 02:10:29,760
hold of it for 35 000 and nolan has some

3302
02:10:34,069 --> 02:10:31,840
of those pieces or how put off has some

3303
02:10:36,310 --> 02:10:34,079
of those pieces and maybe loaned them to

3304
02:10:37,589 --> 02:10:36,320
nolan and hal calls in and says the

3305
02:10:39,510 --> 02:10:37,599
initial story that it was sent

3306
02:10:42,229 --> 02:10:39,520
anonymously by someone claiming to be an

3307
02:10:43,910 --> 02:10:42,239
army officer

3308
02:10:44,870 --> 02:10:43,920
and that put off says

3309
02:10:46,149 --> 02:10:44,880
and then

3310
02:10:48,229 --> 02:10:46,159
written in the diary was that it was a

3311
02:10:50,310 --> 02:10:48,239
piece from roswell

3312
02:10:52,470 --> 02:10:50,320
it turns out that it reduces this this

3313
02:10:55,189 --> 02:10:52,480
piece reduces the size of the required

3314
02:10:57,510 --> 02:10:55,199
microwavable guide for terahertz

3315
02:11:00,069 --> 02:10:57,520
frequencies down to about one thirtieth

3316
02:11:01,669 --> 02:11:00,079
of the wavelength which is amazing so it

3317
02:11:03,910 --> 02:11:01,679
means you can basically i think he said

3318
02:11:06,310 --> 02:11:03,920
there's 120th in other interviews

3319
02:11:07,990 --> 02:11:06,320
so basically it means you can put 20 30

3320
02:11:10,390 --> 02:11:08,000
waveguides in the volume of a single

3321
02:11:12,310 --> 02:11:10,400
waveguide at terahertz frequencies

3322
02:11:14,709 --> 02:11:12,320
and that was it was really quick and

3323
02:11:16,870 --> 02:11:14,719
then i go into the whole put off

3324
02:11:18,390 --> 02:11:16,880
lecture where he talks in great deal

3325
02:11:22,550 --> 02:11:18,400
great detail about

3326
02:11:27,109 --> 02:11:24,390
and i am going to

3327
02:11:28,390 --> 02:11:27,119
go to some of my

3328
02:11:30,790 --> 02:11:28,400
twitter

3329
02:11:32,550 --> 02:11:30,800
in a second

3330
02:11:34,390 --> 02:11:32,560
let me see if i can pull this up because

3331
02:11:35,830 --> 02:11:34,400
i am getting a little

3332
02:11:38,390 --> 02:11:35,840
tired

3333
02:11:40,229 --> 02:11:38,400
let's see

3334
02:11:44,629 --> 02:11:40,239
i can pull up some of the this is some

3335
02:11:51,669 --> 02:11:45,669
that

3336
02:11:55,030 --> 02:11:53,350
so the signal

3337
02:11:56,629 --> 02:11:55,040
tweeted out the link to the interview

3338
02:11:58,629 --> 02:11:56,639
that i'm reading to you right now the

3339
02:12:01,030 --> 02:11:58,639
transcript and the headline said

3340
02:12:02,950 --> 02:12:01,040
stanford professor claims to have real

3341
02:12:05,189 --> 02:12:02,960
ufo parts

3342
02:12:07,910 --> 02:12:05,199
no one's like i don't recall ever going

3343
02:12:10,550 --> 02:12:07,920
that far i have materials given to me

3344
02:12:12,709 --> 02:12:10,560
with interesting claimed histories and

3345
02:12:14,229 --> 02:12:12,719
reasonable chains of custody

3346
02:12:16,310 --> 02:12:14,239
no matter what anything needs

3347
02:12:18,830 --> 02:12:16,320
verification and validation

3348
02:12:21,270 --> 02:12:18,840
and not just by me science needs to be

3349
02:12:22,709 --> 02:12:21,280
reproducible but i do appreciate the

3350
02:12:24,390 --> 02:12:22,719
interest and i wouldn't be talking about

3351
02:12:27,189 --> 02:12:24,400
it if i didn't think it was worth

3352
02:12:30,870 --> 02:12:27,199
discussing and discussion and reasoned

3353
02:12:34,310 --> 02:12:32,629
somebody says i keep caring about items

3354
02:12:36,790 --> 02:12:34,320
being found with isotopes from a

3355
02:12:39,109 --> 02:12:36,800
different solar system

3356
02:12:41,189 --> 02:12:39,119
no one ever said that sounds conclusive

3357
02:12:43,350 --> 02:12:41,199
but nothing ever comes of it do we need

3358
02:12:45,109 --> 02:12:43,360
a big name behind the analysis like a

3359
02:12:46,229 --> 02:12:45,119
harvard professor

3360
02:12:49,030 --> 02:12:46,239
it's like

3361
02:12:51,189 --> 02:12:49,040
uh we have a stanford professor well i

3362
02:12:53,589 --> 02:12:51,199
think nolan is not a big name

3363
02:12:55,750 --> 02:12:53,599
among everyday people but he's

3364
02:12:57,350 --> 02:12:55,760
he's got the gravitas

3365
02:12:59,990 --> 02:12:57,360
uh and should be getting a lot more

3366
02:13:01,589 --> 02:13:00,000
exposure hopefully that comes soon

3367
02:13:03,830 --> 02:13:01,599
nolan says there's no proof that this

3368
02:13:04,950 --> 02:13:03,840
stuff is from elsewhere just data that

3369
02:13:09,990 --> 02:13:04,960
suggests

3370
02:13:14,390 --> 02:13:10,000
engineered

3371
02:13:17,189 --> 02:13:14,400
company not impossible just no currently

3372
02:13:20,229 --> 02:13:17,199
practical reason to do that can be found

3373
02:13:23,910 --> 02:13:22,069
thanks gary for giving this research the

3374
02:13:26,229 --> 02:13:23,920
attention it needs if i comprehend the

3375
02:13:27,910 --> 02:13:26,239
device article accurately there are

3376
02:13:29,109 --> 02:13:27,920
currently and

3377
02:13:31,350 --> 02:13:29,119
i'll start to remember i'll try to

3378
02:13:33,270 --> 02:13:31,360
remember people listening i'm trying to

3379
02:13:35,189 --> 02:13:33,280
make it obvious who's saying what

3380
02:13:39,750 --> 02:13:35,199
these are tweets folks these are tweets

3381
02:13:42,870 --> 02:13:41,189
if i comprehend the vice article

3382
02:13:44,629 --> 02:13:42,880
accurately there are currently at least

3383
02:13:46,950 --> 02:13:44,639
two pieces that remain special or

3384
02:13:48,470 --> 02:13:46,960
unknown the other 10 out of the 12 are

3385
02:13:49,750 --> 02:13:48,480
more mundane

3386
02:13:52,069 --> 02:13:49,760
and nolan says

3387
02:13:55,030 --> 02:13:52,079
mundane insofar as anyone with the

3388
02:13:57,350 --> 02:13:55,040
smelter and semi-purified metals could

3389
02:13:59,270 --> 02:13:57,360
create while interesting

3390
02:14:01,510 --> 02:13:59,280
worth cataloging

3391
02:14:02,950 --> 02:14:01,520
resource money to do detailed study is

3392
02:14:04,709 --> 02:14:02,960
lacking

3393
02:14:06,709 --> 02:14:04,719
the claimed circumstances around the

3394
02:14:07,910 --> 02:14:06,719
materials are interesting but

3395
02:14:10,069 --> 02:14:07,920
can

3396
02:14:12,870 --> 02:14:10,079
and will always be dismissible as

3397
02:14:15,350 --> 02:14:12,880
hearsay

3398
02:14:18,390 --> 02:14:15,360
and this is tim staley saying

3399
02:14:21,030 --> 02:14:18,400
mr nolan when you talk about use case or

3400
02:14:22,470 --> 02:14:21,040
structural function of these materials

3401
02:14:24,629 --> 02:14:22,480
how do you begin eliminating

3402
02:14:26,229 --> 02:14:24,639
possibilities is there a composition is

3403
02:14:27,830 --> 02:14:26,239
there a comparison you can provide for

3404
02:14:28,790 --> 02:14:27,840
context

3405
02:14:30,950 --> 02:14:28,800
nolan

3406
02:14:33,669 --> 02:14:30,960
often you start with lists of avail

3407
02:14:36,069 --> 02:14:33,679
available metals and their cons

3408
02:14:38,069 --> 02:14:36,079
constituents available commercially

3409
02:14:39,830 --> 02:14:38,079
the lists are hard to collate and always

3410
02:14:42,390 --> 02:14:39,840
incomplete as you suggest in preparing

3411
02:14:44,790 --> 02:14:42,400
an analysis the control

3412
02:14:49,430 --> 02:14:44,800
is as important as the real experiment

3413
02:14:53,430 --> 02:14:51,270
okay and okay

3414
02:14:55,189 --> 02:14:53,440
it's interesting that it's still a blend

3415
02:14:56,310 --> 02:14:55,199
talking about one of the one of the um

3416
02:14:57,990 --> 02:14:56,320
samples

3417
02:15:01,830 --> 02:14:58,000
do you know enough about magnesium

3418
02:15:04,310 --> 02:15:01,840
cycles to know if this ratio of isotopes

3419
02:15:05,990 --> 02:15:04,320
would be expected in other systems

3420
02:15:08,629 --> 02:15:06,000
besides ours

3421
02:15:11,189 --> 02:15:08,639
it's talking about off planet nolan

3422
02:15:13,589 --> 02:15:11,199
golds it's always possible some other

3423
02:15:15,669 --> 02:15:13,599
stellar process could create it but then

3424
02:15:18,390 --> 02:15:15,679
you have to explain how one shard from

3425
02:15:23,189 --> 02:15:18,400
the same alleged sample has normal

3426
02:15:25,270 --> 02:15:23,199
ratios and the other does not

3427
02:15:27,510 --> 02:15:25,280
jamison way do you believe they were

3428
02:15:29,750 --> 02:15:27,520
manipulated on purpose or a result of

3429
02:15:30,950 --> 02:15:29,760
some natural occurrence and by the way

3430
02:15:32,709 --> 02:15:30,960
if people

3431
02:15:34,870 --> 02:15:32,719
didn't see a reason to get on twitter

3432
02:15:36,870 --> 02:15:34,880
before this should be an example of why

3433
02:15:38,709 --> 02:15:36,880
you should be on twitter and like i said

3434
02:15:40,950 --> 02:15:38,719
you can follow a very small amount of

3435
02:15:42,550 --> 02:15:40,960
people and you won't get the crap that

3436
02:15:45,350 --> 02:15:42,560
you hear about

3437
02:15:47,510 --> 02:15:45,360
i don't get a lot of crap on my

3438
02:15:49,589 --> 02:15:47,520
twitter personally

3439
02:15:50,950 --> 02:15:49,599
sometimes i dull it out if we go through

3440
02:15:52,790 --> 02:15:50,960
if we go through all my tweets you'll

3441
02:15:55,109 --> 02:15:52,800
see some of that but

3442
02:15:57,270 --> 02:15:55,119
nolan you don't you very rarely see it

3443
02:15:59,830 --> 02:15:57,280
on nolan you could follow lou nolan

3444
02:16:03,109 --> 02:16:01,030
so

3445
02:16:04,950 --> 02:16:03,119
do you believe

3446
02:16:07,270 --> 02:16:04,960
that these samples

3447
02:16:09,189 --> 02:16:07,280
the mixtures were manipulated on purpose

3448
02:16:11,430 --> 02:16:09,199
the elements or as a result of some

3449
02:16:13,510 --> 02:16:11,440
natural occurrence what would be the

3450
02:16:15,189 --> 02:16:13,520
advantage of doing this

3451
02:16:17,910 --> 02:16:15,199
nolan says

3452
02:16:19,430 --> 02:16:17,920
great questions exactly the right ones

3453
02:16:21,270 --> 02:16:19,440
all i'm all i'm doing right now is

3454
02:16:22,870 --> 02:16:21,280
giving the data so that others might

3455
02:16:26,709 --> 02:16:22,880
have questions

3456
02:16:31,030 --> 02:16:29,109
mark coffee says i'm not querying dr

3457
02:16:32,790 --> 02:16:31,040
nolan's credentials

3458
02:16:35,349 --> 02:16:32,800
but all he has shown is that some

3459
02:16:37,669 --> 02:16:35,359
materials he has examined display

3460
02:16:40,070 --> 02:16:37,679
unusual properties this doesn't

3461
02:16:43,429 --> 02:16:40,080
necessarily lead to the conclusion that

3462
02:16:44,549 --> 02:16:43,439
this is extra terrestrial technology

3463
02:16:47,270 --> 02:16:44,559
nolan

3464
02:16:48,629 --> 02:16:47,280
you are right i never said it did or

3465
02:16:50,309 --> 02:16:48,639
proved it did

3466
02:16:53,589 --> 02:16:50,319
the point being

3467
02:16:56,389 --> 02:16:53,599
produce the data and share it many cases

3468
02:16:59,429 --> 02:16:56,399
still lack an explanation i'm looking at

3469
02:17:01,270 --> 02:16:59,439
vetted cases cases that still to date

3470
02:17:06,790 --> 02:17:01,280
prove nothing except that the data

3471
02:17:06,800 --> 02:17:10,150
oh let's see

3472
02:17:13,910 --> 02:17:11,830
kevin thanks for your response as a

3473
02:17:15,990 --> 02:17:13,920
follow-up how would oh i'll read the

3474
02:17:17,270 --> 02:17:16,000
first response

3475
02:17:17,949 --> 02:17:17,280
maybe not

3476
02:17:20,790 --> 02:17:17,959
um

3477
02:17:22,870 --> 02:17:20,800
[Music]

3478
02:17:24,709 --> 02:17:22,880
conor is there anything other than the

3479
02:17:26,830 --> 02:17:24,719
conor asks is there anything other than

3480
02:17:29,110 --> 02:17:26,840
the ratio ratios that make these things

3481
02:17:31,270 --> 02:17:29,120
interesting and nolan's like just the

3482
02:17:32,709 --> 02:17:31,280
claimed circumstances around them i try

3483
02:17:35,030 --> 02:17:32,719
to work with vetted cases that have

3484
02:17:37,589 --> 02:17:35,040
witnesses and claimed evidence hopefully

3485
02:17:39,509 --> 02:17:37,599
shows people that proof and conclusions

3486
02:17:41,990 --> 02:17:39,519
are hard but we can put

3487
02:17:43,509 --> 02:17:42,000
through peer review and published better

3488
02:17:45,589 --> 02:17:43,519
for people to work with data than

3489
02:17:47,589 --> 02:17:45,599
opinions i think kevin says as a

3490
02:17:49,190 --> 02:17:47,599
follow-up how would you make

3491
02:17:52,309 --> 02:17:49,200
how would one make a material with such

3492
02:17:53,509 --> 02:17:52,319
an unusual isotope ratio

3493
02:17:55,750 --> 02:17:53,519
nolan says there are kinds of

3494
02:17:56,469 --> 02:17:55,760
centrifuges or gas filtration devices

3495
02:17:57,990 --> 02:17:56,479
that

3496
02:18:02,389 --> 02:17:58,000
can separate

3497
02:18:03,910 --> 02:18:02,399
concentrate isotopes of different

3498
02:18:06,070 --> 02:18:03,920
weights that weigh

3499
02:18:09,110 --> 02:18:06,080
siphon off a layer then mix purified

3500
02:18:12,389 --> 02:18:09,120
layers to get a ratio you want

3501
02:18:14,790 --> 02:18:12,399
purifying to 99 or even 90 for a given

3502
02:18:17,110 --> 02:18:14,800
mass can get expensive

3503
02:18:19,190 --> 02:18:17,120
i'm going to read all of these questions

3504
02:18:23,509 --> 02:18:19,200
and responses and i'm going to save my

3505
02:18:27,110 --> 02:18:23,970
um

3506
02:18:28,950 --> 02:18:27,120
[Music]

3507
02:18:30,950 --> 02:18:28,960
that

3508
02:18:32,309 --> 02:18:30,960
grant cameron

3509
02:18:35,110 --> 02:18:32,319
and i i knew this was a problem when he

3510
02:18:38,549 --> 02:18:35,120
said again cameron says gary nolan

3511
02:18:41,349 --> 02:18:38,559
pieces from same some are not gary nolan

3512
02:18:43,110 --> 02:18:41,359
pieces from same anomalous event this is

3513
02:18:46,230 --> 02:18:43,120
grant cameron showing two pieces of

3514
02:18:47,270 --> 02:18:46,240
samples one has isotopes not found on

3515
02:18:49,990 --> 02:18:47,280
earth

3516
02:18:52,389 --> 02:18:50,000
the second piece has normal isotopes the

3517
02:18:53,190 --> 02:18:52,399
aliens must be smiling

3518
02:18:55,750 --> 02:18:53,200
say

3519
02:18:58,870 --> 02:18:55,760
wow and by the way wow is grant

3520
02:19:01,030 --> 02:18:58,880
cameron's theory that whatever they show

3521
02:19:02,549 --> 02:19:01,040
us it's them trying to get our attention

3522
02:19:05,429 --> 02:19:02,559
saying look at us

3523
02:19:06,629 --> 02:19:05,439
and we respond by saying wow

3524
02:19:08,070 --> 02:19:06,639
um

3525
02:19:09,750 --> 02:19:08,080
and i knew this

3526
02:19:11,429 --> 02:19:09,760
grant was jumping the line there and

3527
02:19:13,990 --> 02:19:11,439
jerry jumped in and said

3528
02:19:16,950 --> 02:19:14,000
subtle point but it's not isotopes not

3529
02:19:19,750 --> 02:19:16,960
found on earth it's magnesium isotopes

3530
02:19:21,910 --> 02:19:19,760
that are not a naturally found

3531
02:19:26,389 --> 02:19:21,920
mixture and he goes to the mixture of

3532
02:19:31,509 --> 02:19:28,389
how it compares to her normal normal

3533
02:19:34,309 --> 02:19:31,519
magnesium he said two shards of the two

3534
02:19:36,709 --> 02:19:34,319
shards of the material were way off of

3535
02:19:38,309 --> 02:19:36,719
what you would expect not just decimal

3536
02:19:40,870 --> 02:19:38,319
points off

3537
02:19:42,950 --> 02:19:40,880
done on the nano sims accurate to parts

3538
02:19:44,389 --> 02:19:42,960
per billion so yeah it doesn't mean it's

3539
02:19:46,389 --> 02:19:44,399
alien but

3540
02:19:47,750 --> 02:19:46,399
somebody did something to get it to that

3541
02:19:48,950 --> 02:19:47,760
and we don't know who it was and we

3542
02:19:50,389 --> 02:19:48,960
don't know why

3543
02:19:53,750 --> 02:19:50,399
so

3544
02:19:58,389 --> 02:19:55,349
let's see

3545
02:20:04,790 --> 02:20:00,070
my computer is frozen i'm not sure if

3546
02:20:04,800 --> 02:20:15,400
come on

3547
02:20:15,410 --> 02:20:40,710
[Music]

3548
02:20:40,720 --> 02:21:16,950
let's see

3549
02:21:21,270 --> 02:21:18,550
you're still alive but the audience has

3550
02:21:22,550 --> 02:21:21,280
fallen asleep hey i appreciate that

3551
02:21:24,790 --> 02:21:22,560
um

3552
02:21:29,910 --> 02:21:24,800
let's see

3553
02:21:29,920 --> 02:21:55,349
i f oh [\h__\h] computer's freezing up

3554
02:21:59,670 --> 02:21:56,950
well i can't do anything with the frozen

3555
02:22:06,070 --> 02:21:59,680
computer unfortunately

3556
02:22:11,830 --> 02:22:08,790
i guess i'll call it quits i'll try one

3557
02:22:11,840 --> 02:22:53,830
if i can get this to share nope

3558
02:22:57,670 --> 02:22:55,349
i'll try one more time computer's

3559
02:23:00,230 --> 02:22:57,680
freezing up

3560
02:23:00,240 --> 02:23:08,150
back to the nolan stuff

3561
02:23:12,950 --> 02:23:11,590
like i said if you're bored i don't

3562
02:23:15,270 --> 02:23:12,960
mind

3563
02:23:17,349 --> 02:23:15,280
people leaving

3564
02:23:23,030 --> 02:23:17,359
i get it

3565
02:23:23,040 --> 02:23:27,830
and somebody said

3566
02:23:31,670 --> 02:23:30,309
gary's the greatest of all time

3567
02:23:33,270 --> 02:23:31,680
he said why am i the greatest of all

3568
02:23:35,349 --> 02:23:33,280
time i thought i was the sacrificial

3569
02:23:37,510 --> 02:23:35,359
lamb oh he is

3570
02:23:39,670 --> 02:23:37,520
especially when people are ignoring his

3571
02:23:41,270 --> 02:23:39,680
work especially in the ufo community i

3572
02:23:42,950 --> 02:23:41,280
expect a mainstream but those people in

3573
02:23:44,630 --> 02:23:42,960
the ufo community are like yeah this is

3574
02:23:46,309 --> 02:23:44,640
nothing

3575
02:23:47,990 --> 02:23:46,319
the problem is people have expectations

3576
02:23:49,670 --> 02:23:48,000
that you know this is going to happen so

3577
02:23:51,270 --> 02:23:49,680
fast and we're going to get disclosure

3578
02:23:52,870 --> 02:23:51,280
the full story no it's going to take a

3579
02:23:54,710 --> 02:23:52,880
long time and steps like this are

3580
02:23:57,110 --> 02:23:54,720
important people really need to start

3581
02:23:58,469 --> 02:23:57,120
getting over this oh we're going to have

3582
02:24:00,389 --> 02:23:58,479
it's going to happen by the end of the

3583
02:24:02,230 --> 02:24:00,399
year and it's like

3584
02:24:04,710 --> 02:24:02,240
you got to continually continually be

3585
02:24:06,309 --> 02:24:04,720
disappointed and bored with stuff like

3586
02:24:07,830 --> 02:24:06,319
this if you you're expecting the most

3587
02:24:09,270 --> 02:24:07,840
exciting stuff and oh they're going to

3588
02:24:10,870 --> 02:24:09,280
tell us they're time travelers it's

3589
02:24:12,309 --> 02:24:10,880
going to happen any day now and

3590
02:24:13,349 --> 02:24:12,319
reptilians

3591
02:24:15,590 --> 02:24:13,359
nope

3592
02:24:17,349 --> 02:24:15,600
i if i'm wrong i'm wrong but it's a slow

3593
02:24:18,790 --> 02:24:17,359
and long process this has been going on

3594
02:24:20,870 --> 02:24:18,800
for a long time i don't know if i'm

3595
02:24:22,389 --> 02:24:20,880
gonna ever see

3596
02:24:23,910 --> 02:24:22,399
any more disclosure of what we're

3597
02:24:25,830 --> 02:24:23,920
dealing with in my lifetime where we get

3598
02:24:27,750 --> 02:24:25,840
answers i hope it happens i hope it

3599
02:24:29,030 --> 02:24:27,760
happens next month but it's a slow

3600
02:24:31,349 --> 02:24:29,040
process

3601
02:24:32,630 --> 02:24:31,359
that's why you see people drop out new

3602
02:24:34,469 --> 02:24:32,640
people who are new to this they think

3603
02:24:36,230 --> 02:24:34,479
this is normal to be getting all this

3604
02:24:39,270 --> 02:24:36,240
new stuff and especially people who got

3605
02:24:41,030 --> 02:24:39,280
in 2017 they've dropped off or they've

3606
02:24:43,030 --> 02:24:41,040
become total debunkers talking about how

3607
02:24:45,990 --> 02:24:43,040
this is you know we're dealing with

3608
02:24:49,750 --> 02:24:46,000
drones all this is drones um

3609
02:24:53,110 --> 02:24:51,510
somebody says except for the part about

3610
02:24:54,950 --> 02:24:53,120
it being all about science science is

3611
02:24:56,550 --> 02:24:54,960
helpful but this topic covers much more

3612
02:24:58,469 --> 02:24:56,560
and much of valet's thinking isn't

3613
02:25:00,950 --> 02:24:58,479
strictly scientific but often

3614
02:25:03,110 --> 02:25:00,960
philosophical and nolan says oh don't

3615
02:25:05,030 --> 02:25:03,120
worry i follow all these other areas but

3616
02:25:07,349 --> 02:25:05,040
there are plenty

3617
02:25:09,349 --> 02:25:07,359
of others who speak it better than i do

3618
02:25:11,349 --> 02:25:09,359
i fully agree today science can't

3619
02:25:21,030 --> 02:25:11,359
explain it all so that's why i stick to

3620
02:25:25,830 --> 02:25:23,349
kill sheru said are ufos a result of

3621
02:25:28,389 --> 02:25:25,840
technology or spirituality

3622
02:25:30,309 --> 02:25:28,399
ufo twitter seems to be divided

3623
02:25:31,910 --> 02:25:30,319
personally i believe two options are

3624
02:25:33,110 --> 02:25:31,920
mutually exclusive but what are your

3625
02:25:34,950 --> 02:25:33,120
thoughts

3626
02:25:37,030 --> 02:25:34,960
nolan said

3627
02:25:39,270 --> 02:25:37,040
arthur c clarke any sufficiently

3628
02:25:40,550 --> 02:25:39,280
advanced technology is indistinguishable

3629
02:25:42,469 --> 02:25:40,560
from magic

3630
02:25:43,910 --> 02:25:42,479
and by the way

3631
02:25:47,190 --> 02:25:43,920
i'm not sure if

3632
02:25:49,190 --> 02:25:47,200
ufo twitter is split between technology

3633
02:25:50,710 --> 02:25:49,200
and spirituality i think

3634
02:25:53,190 --> 02:25:50,720
you're talking about nuts and bolts and

3635
02:25:54,550 --> 02:25:53,200
something that's non-physical that's you

3636
02:25:55,670 --> 02:25:54,560
know there's a divide with that and

3637
02:25:57,910 --> 02:25:55,680
people don't want to get into the

3638
02:26:00,070 --> 02:25:57,920
non-physical aspect of it doesn't

3639
02:26:01,510 --> 02:26:00,080
necessarily mean it's spiritual just

3640
02:26:03,590 --> 02:26:01,520
because something's non-physical or

3641
02:26:05,750 --> 02:26:03,600
something that's residing outside of the

3642
02:26:06,950 --> 02:26:05,760
electromagnetic spectrum we can't see it

3643
02:26:08,710 --> 02:26:06,960
that doesn't mean it's spiritual

3644
02:26:11,110 --> 02:26:08,720
whatsoever although there is an aspect

3645
02:26:13,590 --> 02:26:11,120
that a spiritual and metaphysical yes

3646
02:26:14,710 --> 02:26:13,600
but and that's another step up but i

3647
02:26:22,150 --> 02:26:14,720
don't think that's where the major

3648
02:26:27,750 --> 02:26:24,230
back on yeah i don't know what's going

3649
02:26:32,710 --> 02:26:27,760
on with my computer

3650
02:26:37,750 --> 02:26:36,070
and that's i'm trying to think

3651
02:26:39,750 --> 02:26:37,760
that's coveted because he worked on

3652
02:26:41,910 --> 02:26:39,760
covid so

3653
02:26:43,750 --> 02:26:41,920
he does not put up with anti-back stuff

3654
02:26:45,990 --> 02:26:43,760
i think that's it

3655
02:26:48,550 --> 02:26:46,000
all right i'll do my own tweets tomorrow

3656
02:26:50,550 --> 02:26:48,560
i know i appreciate there's 23 people

3657
02:26:52,070 --> 02:26:50,560
that's 23 more than i expected to be

3658
02:26:54,790 --> 02:26:52,080
here at this time of the night on

3659
02:26:58,790 --> 02:26:54,800
saturday so if you have any questions

3660
02:27:02,630 --> 02:26:58,800
go for it now anything you want

3661
02:27:02,640 --> 02:27:06,710
no holds barred

3662
02:27:06,720 --> 02:27:11,349
that is my twitter

3663
02:27:15,030 --> 02:27:12,710
anything

3664
02:27:16,630 --> 02:27:15,040
people awake

3665
02:27:18,150 --> 02:27:16,640
should i start singing star wars like

3666
02:27:19,830 --> 02:27:18,160
bill murray

3667
02:27:26,790 --> 02:27:19,840
all right i'll end it

3668
02:27:30,710 --> 02:27:28,630
i'm still feeling my way on how to do

3669
02:27:33,990 --> 02:27:30,720
this

3670
02:27:35,110 --> 02:27:34,000
do it some people love it some people

3671
02:27:36,070 --> 02:27:35,120
don't like it

3672
02:27:38,389 --> 02:27:36,080
um

3673
02:27:39,910 --> 02:27:38,399
anyway all right

3674
02:27:41,349 --> 02:27:39,920
people fall asleep

3675
02:27:43,510 --> 02:27:41,359
they're snoring

3676
02:27:45,670 --> 02:27:43,520
as i put them into a nice

3677
02:27:48,710 --> 02:27:45,680
dreamlike state

3678
02:27:49,670 --> 02:27:48,720
and that's your ufo twitter gary nolan

3679
02:27:51,110 --> 02:27:49,680
vice

3680
02:27:54,950 --> 02:27:51,120
update

3681
02:28:00,309 --> 02:27:58,630
yeah good question

3682
02:28:02,630 --> 02:28:00,319
like i said earlier i

3683
02:28:04,630 --> 02:28:02,640
i wouldn't say an assessment i'd say my

3684
02:28:06,950 --> 02:28:04,640
favorite speculation of what we're

3685
02:28:09,750 --> 02:28:06,960
dealing with is something at least one

3686
02:28:13,429 --> 02:28:09,760
aspect of it something that is native to

3687
02:28:16,230 --> 02:28:13,439
this planet that is not physical but can

3688
02:28:17,349 --> 02:28:16,240
become physical and it communicates with

3689
02:28:19,030 --> 02:28:17,359
us

3690
02:28:22,510 --> 02:28:19,040
by sometimes becoming physical whether

3691
02:28:26,710 --> 02:28:22,520
it's a ufo or you know or a gray or a

3692
02:28:28,950 --> 02:28:26,720
mantid being or a reptilian but

3693
02:28:31,110 --> 02:28:28,960
that's just a speculation i mean we

3694
02:28:32,389 --> 02:28:31,120
could be dealing with extraterrestrials

3695
02:28:34,230 --> 02:28:32,399
i mean

3696
02:28:36,469 --> 02:28:34,240
i had somebody tell me a couple of years

3697
02:28:38,469 --> 02:28:36,479
ago we were dealing with all kinds of

3698
02:28:40,070 --> 02:28:38,479
different things

3699
02:28:42,150 --> 02:28:40,080
the one thing that we knew about the

3700
02:28:44,710 --> 02:28:42,160
lease was extraterrestrials everything

3701
02:28:47,670 --> 02:28:44,720
else was interdimensional and relative

3702
02:28:52,070 --> 02:28:47,680
uh like cousins relatives of ours

3703
02:28:52,830 --> 02:28:52,080
and time travel was involved so

3704
02:28:57,590 --> 02:28:52,840
you

3705
02:29:00,389 --> 02:28:57,600
he believes they're definitely coming

3706
02:29:03,190 --> 02:29:00,399
here using other dimensions but doesn't

3707
02:29:05,750 --> 02:29:03,200
know if they're extraterrestrial or

3708
02:29:06,950 --> 02:29:05,760
part of this planet so people like that

3709
02:29:08,550 --> 02:29:06,960
don't know

3710
02:29:10,550 --> 02:29:08,560
i spoke to somebody who said the

3711
02:29:13,270 --> 02:29:10,560
evidence is so contradictory because i

3712
02:29:15,670 --> 02:29:13,280
said is it one intelligence

3713
02:29:17,670 --> 02:29:15,680
pretending to be multiple things or is

3714
02:29:19,830 --> 02:29:17,680
it really multiple intelligences here

3715
02:29:22,950 --> 02:29:19,840
and they said don't know

3716
02:29:26,710 --> 02:29:22,960
evidence is contradictory in short in

3717
02:29:29,510 --> 02:29:26,720
plain english it's a [\h__\h] show

3718
02:29:31,990 --> 02:29:29,520
brilliant person told me that um

3719
02:29:35,190 --> 02:29:33,750
that's my and that's

3720
02:29:37,510 --> 02:29:35,200
i don't know i really don't know and i

3721
02:29:38,790 --> 02:29:37,520
hate people that tell me they know it's

3722
02:29:44,630 --> 02:29:38,800
like all right

3723
02:29:51,030 --> 02:29:48,790
edward roman and by the way

3724
02:29:53,030 --> 02:29:51,040
i don't need to read uh every roman asks

3725
02:29:54,710 --> 02:29:53,040
human humans have no chance against the

3726
02:29:56,389 --> 02:29:54,720
phenomenon the government will sell us a

3727
02:29:59,270 --> 02:29:56,399
war and will get

3728
02:30:00,870 --> 02:29:59,280
completely destroyed um

3729
02:30:04,389 --> 02:30:00,880
yeah i don't i don't know how the

3730
02:30:06,469 --> 02:30:04,399
government's gonna handle this i don't

3731
02:30:07,830 --> 02:30:06,479
it's definitely worries some how they're

3732
02:30:09,590 --> 02:30:07,840
going to handle it

3733
02:30:11,510 --> 02:30:09,600
i want to

3734
02:30:13,830 --> 02:30:11,520
yeah tomorrow i'll do some of my twitter

3735
02:30:15,590 --> 02:30:13,840
there's some decent videos

3736
02:30:17,270 --> 02:30:15,600
i pulled up i pulled up a clip from hunt

3737
02:30:19,590 --> 02:30:17,280
for the skinwalker which i need to watch

3738
02:30:21,830 --> 02:30:19,600
again now that ossep came out

3739
02:30:23,910 --> 02:30:21,840
and asset wasn't about skinwalker ranch

3740
02:30:25,910 --> 02:30:23,920
it was partly about the ranch but it was

3741
02:30:28,550 --> 02:30:25,920
the whole area around the ranch and

3742
02:30:30,469 --> 02:30:28,560
other areas around the country and they

3743
02:30:33,190 --> 02:30:30,479
planned on investigating other hot spots

3744
02:30:37,349 --> 02:30:33,200
around the world

3745
02:30:42,710 --> 02:30:39,670
that is it

3746
02:30:44,469 --> 02:30:42,720
unless you ask any more questions

3747
02:30:46,230 --> 02:30:44,479
it was how long

3748
02:30:48,309 --> 02:30:46,240
two and a half hours i'm very curious to

3749
02:30:49,990 --> 02:30:48,319
see the feedback on this one

3750
02:30:52,630 --> 02:30:50,000
people like this stuff but some people

3751
02:30:54,150 --> 02:30:52,640
are bored to tears which i understand

3752
02:30:55,270 --> 02:30:54,160
and other people just want interviews

3753
02:30:57,190 --> 02:30:55,280
and it's like

3754
02:30:59,670 --> 02:30:57,200
i can do nothing but interviews but it's

3755
02:31:01,590 --> 02:30:59,680
like everybody's doing interviews every

3756
02:31:02,790 --> 02:31:01,600
podcast has an interview i can do the

3757
02:31:04,630 --> 02:31:02,800
same thing

3758
02:31:06,710 --> 02:31:04,640
maybe i can ask a couple of better

3759
02:31:09,990 --> 02:31:06,720
questions but it's like

3760
02:31:11,110 --> 02:31:10,000
my valet i mean my keller her green

3761
02:31:14,309 --> 02:31:11,120
interview

3762
02:31:15,750 --> 02:31:14,319
thought that whitley strieber's

3763
02:31:18,309 --> 02:31:15,760
interview was better

3764
02:31:20,710 --> 02:31:18,319
um andy did a great job so it's like i

3765
02:31:23,190 --> 02:31:20,720
don't know i gotta figure it out

3766
02:31:24,469 --> 02:31:23,200
anyway yes good night edward uh

3767
02:31:25,990 --> 02:31:24,479
goodnight everybody if you're already

3768
02:31:27,910 --> 02:31:26,000
sleeping

3769
02:31:29,349 --> 02:31:27,920
sweet dreams i think i'll be back

3770
02:31:30,389 --> 02:31:29,359
tomorrow just to go somewhere over my

3771
02:31:33,670 --> 02:31:30,399
tweets

3772
02:31:36,070 --> 02:31:33,680
and then i start a new job a nine-day

3773
02:31:37,830 --> 02:31:36,080
job on monday with usher coming to

3774
02:31:39,750 --> 02:31:37,840
caesar's palace so

3775
02:31:42,150 --> 02:31:39,760
not an usher fan but

3776
02:31:44,230 --> 02:31:42,160
i need to work it's been it's been a

3777
02:31:47,590 --> 02:31:44,240
while it's been very quiet

3778
02:31:52,150 --> 02:31:50,389
good night to edward roman good night

3779
02:31:53,670 --> 02:31:52,160
the professor heinous thanks for all

3780
02:31:56,550 --> 02:31:53,680
your work joe and don't forget i've got

3781
02:31:58,309 --> 02:31:56,560
some images if you want them

3782
02:32:01,270 --> 02:31:58,319
and and i told somebody last time to

3783
02:32:03,190 --> 02:32:01,280
send me something to ufo joe one one

3784
02:32:06,790 --> 02:32:03,200
which is the email i use

3785
02:32:08,550 --> 02:32:06,800
so it's your ufo joe one one at aol.com

3786
02:32:10,870 --> 02:32:08,560
you could send it there

3787
02:32:13,110 --> 02:32:10,880
but i i i didn't even get to that last

3788
02:32:14,790 --> 02:32:13,120
person who sent me stuff something

3789
02:32:16,150 --> 02:32:14,800
anyway